Expanding T2013's Careers and Starting Equipment

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by 3catcircus

The Special Ops life paths are too difficult to qualify for - in real life, there are plenty of soldiers wearing Ranger tabs, but the prereqs make it look like your character needs to be an olympic athlete with genius level IQ.

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In a way, it's sort of realistic, in a way it's not. In my Airborne class, we lost over 30%. In Ranger School, we lost close to 50%. Even in Infantry OSUT, we started out with 250 recruits and graduated 197 Infantrymen.

I've never tried it, but loss rate for Delta and DEVGRU candidates is around 90%.

The Commander of the WWII OSS (which spawned both the CIA and SF), COL Bill Donovan, once said, "I'm looking for a Princeton graduate who can win a bar fight -- and not get caught afterwards."

[3catcircus]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

In a way, it's sort of realistic, in a way it's not. In my Airborne class, we lost over 30%. In Ranger School, we lost close to 50%. Even in Infantry OSUT, we started out with 250 recruits and graduated 197 Infantrymen.

I've never tried it, but loss rate for Delta and DEVGRU candidates is around 90%.

The Commander of the WWII OSS (which spawned both the CIA and SF), COL Bill Donovan, once said, "I'm looking for a Princeton graduate who can win a bar fight -- and not get caught afterwards."

The issue is that the granularity of the careers doesn't distinguish between the equivalent of, say, earning a Ranger tab and being assigned to a special operations-capable unit doing high speed low drag stuff.

I would argue that simulating getting a Ranger tab wouldn't be part of the Special Ops careers. Not taking away the difficulty of Ranger School, but I assume that the "Special Operations Training" career is intended to simulate RASP, SFQC, BUD/S, etc. And "Elite Infantry" would simulate 75th Ranger Rgt, SF, SEALs, etc. It reads like it leads to one of the 18 series SF MOS.

The question becomes then, how do the "Assault Infantry" and "Naval Infantry" fall into the picture. TW2013s rules sort of imply that Assault Infantry could be anything from mechanized infantry 11Bs to 82nd Airborne to 10th Mtn or anything in between. Naval Infantry reads like USMC -or- SEALs.

There's just too little info in the TW2013 career descriptions to be able to fully define which types of unit the various careers are actually trying to simulate.

That, and the careers don't really do a good job (in any edition of the game) of simulating the initial training and qualification - whether 3-week long Airborne school, 62-day Ranger School, Nuclear Power training pipeline (18 months of a million dollar education shoved down my throat a nickel at a time...), or the old 4 week navy apprenticeship training school immediately after boot camp.

[Milano]

@ Tegyrius ---- YOU ARE MY HERO!! I've been looking for something, anything, for years! Thank you for giving me\us this.

[Milano]

After playing with the formula some can I verify the variables with you?

gr = is the Grain weight of the bullet

ft / s= is feet a second of the bullet art that range. (I realize this is dependent upon BCs etc)

d = damage

r = radius of the bullet

mv = muzzle velocity in ft/sec

e = no idea!


Might there also be any formulas for Range, Spd, Recoil and Bulk ? Thank you very much for any information you may be able to share or directions to point me.

I also REALLY like your website and the encounter generator. Thank you for that as well.

[StainlessSteelCynic]

e is probably "energy" but I'll admit that my knowledge of shorthand for scientific notation is very limited.

[3catcircus]

e is Euler's number. It's a constant.

mv are mass and velocity. Kinetic energy equation is 1/2 mass multiplied by velocity squared.

It appears that the square root term becomes dimensionless. The cube root term is raised to the 2/3 of a power (cubed root of a squared dimension). As ac result, I assume d is the damage as a function primarily of the size and mass of the projectile. Which seems to make sense (large, slow projectile vs small fast projectile).

I assume s in the k1, k2, and k3 is seconds.

[Tegyrius]

I didn't develop the ballistic formula - as noted above, Justin Stodola built it for us. I'm not that much of a mathematician.

For the other traits, try this. Note that I haven't looked at this document in 13 or 14 years, so my ability to answer questions like "what the hell were you thinking" is kind of limited. I've eaten and slept since then, so my memory is somewhat faded.

http://www.de-fenestra.com/t2k/downl...arm_design.pdf

I coded the JavaScript calculator around the same time, so, again, my memory of how the math works is not very fresh either...

- C.

[StainlessSteelCynic]

Originally Posted by 3catcircus

e is Euler's number. It's a constant.

Ah, I have knowledge!
Maths was never my strong point so things like this are typically in the "what the hell is that?" zone for me