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NEW DAMAGE RULES
-houserules v.2.1 by GM Headquarters-

PURPOSE: to provide more realistic but fast played damage resolution rules.

1 .Basic rules : damage causes loss of hitpoints and affects initiative ,movement ,consciousness etc

IMMIDEATE EFFECTS :

INITIATIVE :
slight -1 int.
serious-2 more int
critical -2 more int and strength halved

LOOSING CONSCIOUSNESS/BLACK OUT :
Immediately on going into the negative the player rolls a dice for loss of consciousness and also at the start of each phase when taking action.

If seriously wounded CON score is the % chance on the D10 of staying awake –i.e CON 8 is an 80% chance.

Blackout lasts until next phase-roll is repeated to gain consciousness.

A roll of 10 always means losing consciousness.

If critically wounded the player rolls a D100 using CON to decide chance .CON 8 gives an 8 % chance.

A character can take a negative amount of-200% HP before death .A HP score of CHEST 25means that at minus 51 character is dead.
Critical wounds to head does not mean instant death.

BLEEDING TO DEATH :

Upon reaching serious level wounded character looses blood at a rate that will kill within 10 minutes if not treated .

Upon reaching critical level wounded character looses blood at a rate that will kill within 5 minutes if not treated .

TREATMENT/FIRST AID :to stop bleeding is dependant on circumstance and wound severity and type .GM can modify accordingly at discretion.

SLIGHT :EASY:MEDICAL
SERIOUS : AVERAGE: MEDICAL
CRITICAL : DIFFICULT MEDICAL
Pers. med . kit +1 , doctors medkit +2 . Treatment MUST include applying bandages ,tourniquets, improvised pressure clamp etc . Cannot be done with nothing.
Performing first aid on your self is one level more difficult and means staying conscious for minimum 30 sec.Arms/Legs often easier to do yourself – GM decides.

RECOVERY:
SLIGHT WOUNDS :10 days.EASY:MEDICAL ½ time. No MEDICAL treatment adds ½ time. PERS. MED KIT +1, DOCTORS MED KIT +3
SERIOUS WOUNDS : 22 days.AVG:MEDICAL ½ time. No MEDICAL treatment adds ½ time. PERS. MED KIT +1, DOCTORS MED KIT +3
CRITICAL WOUNDS: 40 days.DIFFICULT:MEDICAL ½ time. No MEDICAL treatment adds ½ time. PERS. MED KIT +1, DOCTORS MED KIT +3

INSUFFICIENT REST,FOOD,WATER,SHELTER: + ½ time. Any work,movement or combat adds time as pr GM discretion. Effects are cumulative.

2.CRITICAL HITS:
Critical hits means wound affects internal organs ,arteries ,bones or other that make injury grave.Usually this means uncontrollable hemorrhaging leading to desanguination or indeed exsanguinations .Critical hits refer to both internal bleeding and other forms of bleeding at dangerous levels.

Critical hits also refer to shock in the medical sense of the word .Any injury can cause shock –although in game terms a critical hit is needed to bring about shock.
(Hypovolemic and cardiogenic will likely be the main types of shock in-game ,but septic shock or obstructive shock are also likely).

The term “Bleed Time” in the critical hit tables refers to exsanguinations has occurred or to the refractory or irreversible state of shock has occurred .In-game we shall not be discussing what came first –exsanguinations or refractory shock.

Risk of critical hits occur each time a character is wounded. The GM rolls a D10 , the number of penetrating damage dice equals the chance of it being a critical hit.
Example: a hit from a rifle with damage 3 on an unarmored target gives a 30%chance of critical hit on the GMs D10 result roll. (If 2 dice were subtracted due to body armour ,the chance is 10%.)

Each critical hit means consulting location specific CRITICAL TABLES for result. The table lists different results for critical and serious wound levels.

3.TREATING CRITICAL HITS /FIRST AID:
Treatment Follows wound severity in difficulty. One attempt takes 6 phases .It stops bleeding ,covers wound surface and improves chance of avoiding infection or complication .SLIGHT WOUNDS are EASY ,SERIOUS WOUNDS are AVERAGE and CRITICAL WOUNDS are DIFFICULT.

TREATING SHOCK : In hypovolemic shock, usually hemorrhagic shock caused by traumatic injury, it is necessary to immediately control the bleeding and restore the casualty's blood volume by giving infusions of isotonic crystalloid solutions.(IV-drip).
In case of respiratory insufficiency (i.e. diminished levels of consciousness, hyperventilation due to acid-base disturbances or pneumonia) intubation and mechanical ventilation may be necessary.

TREATING BLEEDING : a variety of techniques ranging from – APPLYING PRESSURE TO WOUND/PRESSURE BANDAGE, GLUEING WOUND TOGETHER,POWDERED COAGULANTS/OTHER,TOURNIQUES,RAISING WOUND HIGHER THAN HEART etc






Please note that preventing complications and infections are covered in a separate section (table 6.) These are medical procedures that involve hours of surgery or weeks of care .

WOUND SEVERITY INCREASE: Actions such as combat may ad damage point to locations already wounded. GM will pr discretion add damage as combat unfolds.
Successful treatments can fall apart / become worse: if strained. New Medical check using treating characters skill is made with appropriate difficulty level .GM decides. Example: running with a bandage can make it come of. Medics skill was 5 .GM decides its an AVERAGE strain for the bandage. Wounded char roll using medics skill.

All critical hits must be treated like this unless otherwise stated in tables.

4. LOCATION SPECIFIC CRITICAL TABLES:


D10 RESULT CRITICAL HITS TABLE HEAD
1 SERIOUS :Bleed time :10 min
CRITICAL : Bleed time 5 min

2 SERIOUS :Bleed time 10 min .Shock. Medical check one level more difficult
CRITICAL: Bleed time : 5 min .Shock .Medical check one level more difficult
3 SERIOUS: Bleed time .Shock .10 min

CRITICAL :Bleed time Shock. 5 min

4 SERIOUS : Bleed time 5 min .Shock .Loss of hearing: OBS-1
CRITICAL : Bleed time 2 ½ min. Shock. Loss of hearing OBS -2

5 SERIOUS: bleed time 5 min . Shock Disfigurement :CHARISMA -1**
CRITICAL : bleed time 2 ½ min . Shock Disfigurement : CHARISMA -2**

6 SERIOUS :bleed time 5 min .Hemorrhaging.
Horrible disfigurement :CHARISMA -1D6**
CRITICAL :bleed time 2 ½ min .Hemorrhaging

Horrible disfigurement :CHARISMA -1D6**
7 SERIOUS : bleed time 10 min. Internal hemorrhaging
Loss of eyesight : AG-1 ,OBS-2
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min. Internal hemorrhaging .
Loss of eyesight : AG-2 ,OBS-3

8 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min. Internal hemorrhaging.
Brain damage :INTEL : -1
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min. Internal hemorrhaging.
Brain damage :INTEL : -2

9 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min . Internal hemorrhaging
Brain damage: INTEL: - 2, 1D6 skills -1D6 points*
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min. Internal hemorrhaging
Brain dmg. :INTEL: -3 , 1D6 skills -1D6 points

10 SERIOUS :bleed time 1 min. Extreme Hemorrhaging. Difficult medical to treat
CRITICAL: Immediate death*

**
What skills are determined by numbering all skills with points.
Rolling a dice with the closest number till selection is done.
Certain types of damage lends themselves to disfigurement result.
Fire, acid etc GM decides.



D10 RESULT CRITICAL HITS TABLE CHEST
1 SERIOUS :bleed time 10 min.
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min

2 SERIOUS : bleed time 10 min.
CRITICAL :bleed time 5 min

3 SERIOUS : Shock .bleed time 10 min.
CRITICAL :Shock. bleed time 5 min.

4 SERIOUS: Shock.bleed time 10 min.
CRITICAL: Hemorrhaging. bleed time 5 min.

5 SERIOUS: Hemorrhaging bleed time 5 min.
CRITICAL: Internal hemorrhaging. Bleed time 2 ½ min.

6 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min.Lung damage: Lungs fill w/blood. Hemorrhaging.
Must make CON -1 each turn (6th phase) until treated. Average medical.
Failed checks accumulate -1 penalty. When at 0, character has drowned.
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min. SAME AS OVER. CONCHECK PEN - 2

7 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min .Spinal damage:10% chance of paralysis pr phase
moved w/o stretcher or pr obstacle negated Absolute rest min.4 months
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min. SAME AS OVER. RISK 20%

8 SERIOUS: bleed time:10 min .Cardiogenic shock: AVG: medical or char dies in
CON/2 minutes, Heart failure.
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min. SAME AS OVER but DIFFICULT :MEDICAL

9 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min. Heart failure: Difficult medical or char dies
in CON/2 minutes Cardiogenic shock
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min. SAME AS OVER but TIME IS CON/4 minutes

10 SERIOUS: Massive Internal hemorrhaging.2 min bleed time.
Difficult medical to stop.
CRITICAL:SAME AS OVER . Bleed time 1 min.



D10 RESULT CRITICAL HITS TABLE ABDOMEN
1 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min.
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min

2 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min.
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min

3 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min.
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min

4 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min.
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min .Hemorrhaging.

5 SERIOUS: bleed time 5 min. Hemorrhaging.
CRITICAL: bleed time 2 ½ min. Hemorrhaging.

6 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min.Gutshot. Internal hemorrhage. ADD +3 to the
INFECTION ROLL
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min .GUTSHOT. Internal hemorrhaging .
ADD+4 to INFECTION ROLL

7 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min.Gutshot. Internal hemorrhaging
Add +3 to INFECTION ROLL
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min .GUTSHOT. Internal hemorrhaging
ADD+4 to INFECTION ROLL

8 SERIOUS: bleed time 5 min.Gutshot. Add +4 to INFECTION ROLL
CRITICAL: bleed time 2 ½ min .GUTSHOT. ADD +5 to INFECTION ROLL

9 SERIOUS: bleed time 5 min. Artery rupture.2 DIFFICULT:MEDICAL checks
to treat .
CRITICAL: bleed time 2 min . SAME AS OVER . 3 DIFFICULT: MEDICAL


10 SERIOUS: Massive internal bleeding. Time 2 min.. AVG:MEDICAL to stop.
CRITICAL: SAME AS OVER. But DIFFICULT:MEDICAL


D10 RESULTCRITICAL HITS TABLE ARMS
1 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min.
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min

2 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min.
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min

3 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min.
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min

4 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min. Shock
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min .Shock

5 SERIOUS: bleed time 5 min. Shock
CRITICAL: bleed time 2 ½ min. Hemorrhaging

6 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min. Nerve damage loss of skill -2 points random skill.
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min.SAME AS OVER but -3

7 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min. Nerve damage loss of skill -3 points random skill.
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min.SAME AS OVER but -4

8 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min. Nerve damage loss of STR -1 .
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min. SAME AS OVER .

9 SERIOUS: bleed time 5 min .Loss of fingers.Random skill -4.Hemorrhaging
CRITICAL: bleed time 2 ½ min.SAME AS OVER but -5 Hemorrhaging

10 SERIOUS: bleed time 5 min. Muscle damage .STR-1.Hemorrhaging
CRITICAL: bleed time 2 1/2 min. Loss of limb. STR- ¼ round down.


D10 RESULT CRITICAL HITS TABLE LEGS
1 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min. Hemorrhaging
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min. Hemorrhaging

2 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min. Hemorrhaging
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min Hemorrhaging

3 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min. Hemorrhaging
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min. Shock

4 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min. Shock
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min.Shock

5 SERIOUS: bleed time 5 min.Shock
CRITICAL: bleed time 2 ½ min,Shock

6 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min. Nerve damage. Movement impaired -1 m /phase
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min .SAME AS OVER but -2 m / phase. Hemorrhaging

7 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min. Nerve damage. Movement impaired -2 m/ phase.
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min. SAME AS OVER but handicap is -3 m /phase.

8 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min. Nerve damage loss of STR -1 . Hemorrhaging
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min. SAME AS OVER . Hemorrhaging

9 SERIOUS: bleed time 5 min .Loss of toes. AG – 1 Hemorrhaging
CRITICAL: bleed time 2 ½ min. SAME AS OVER but -2 Hemorrhaging

10 SERIOUS: bleed time 5 min. Muscle damage .STR-1. Internal Hemorrhaging
CRITICAL: bleed time 2 1/2 min. Loss of limb. STR- ¼ round down.
Internal Hemorrhaging.


5..COMPLICATIONS AND INFECTIONS :

Infection and or complications can be the result of any wound no matter the wound severity level.Character must make a check against CONSTITUTION.
GM decides if check is easy ,average or difficult depending on circumstances and wound type .Burns are more prone to infection etc .
The GM consults his damage results table to determine complication if any . (TABLE 6) ,depending on CON check result is applied .

Proper first aid or rapid medical treatment will improve chance of avoiding a bad result .In many climates and environments this must done immediately or within minutes of the injury . SUCCESSFUL FIRST AID FOLLOWS WOUND SEVERITY. Pers.med kit +1 ,doctors med kit+2. One attempt allowed pr turn (6th phase)

Most complications are readily treatable ,and are a matter of time and resources. Others require more effort , and some are difficult to recover fully from .





6. COMPLICATIONS AND INFECTIONS TABLE


D10 RESULT EFFECT ON WOUNDED CHARACTER
1
CON/EASY* SLIGHT: -
SERIOUS: -
CRITICAL: small infection. EASY:MEDICAL to treat

2
CON/EASY* SLIGHT: -
SERIOUS: small infection .EASY:MEDICAL to treat
CRITICAL: small infection. EASY: MEDICAL to treat

3
CON/EASY* SLIGHT: -
SERIOUS: slight infection. EASY:MEDICAL to treat
CRITICAL: slight infection. EASY:MEDICAL to treat

4
CON/AVG* SLIGHT: slight infection. EASY:MEDICAL to treat
SERIOUS: medium infection. AVG:MEDICAL to treat
CRITICAL: medium infection. AVG:MEDICAL to treat

5
CON/AVG* SLIGHT: medium infection. AVG:MEDICAL to treat
SERIOUS: medium infection. AVG:MEDICAL to treat
CRITICAL: serious infection. DIFFICULT:MEDICAL to treat

6
CON/AVG* SLIGHT: medium infection. AVG:MEDICAL to treat
SERIOUS: medium infection. AVG:MEDICAL to treat
CRITICAL: serious infection. DIFFICULT:MEDICAL to treat

7
CON/DIFF* SLIGHT: medium infection. AVG:MEDICAL to treat
SERIOUS: serious infection. DIFFICULT:MEDICAL to treat
CRITICAL: SEPSIS. Surgery needed AVG:MED.

8
CON/DIFF* SLIGHT: Serious infection. DIFFICULT:MEDICAL to treat
SERIOUS: : SEPSIS .Surgery needed AVG:MED.
CRITICAL: SEPSIS. Surgery needed DIFFICULT:MED.

9
CON/DIFF* SLIGHT: Serious infection. DIFFICULT:MEDICAL to treat
SERIOUS: : SEPSIS. Surgery needed AVG:MED.
CRITICAL: SEPSIS. Surgery needed DIFFICULT:MED.

10
CON/DIFF* SLIGHT:SEPSIS. Surgery needed.AVG: MEDICAL
SERIOUS:FRAGMENT. Surgery needed .DIFFICULT:MED.
CRITICAL: Chronic sepsis due to fragments. 1D6 DIFF:MED
Procedures needed.INFECTION:Untreated = -1D12 to location pr week
SEPSIS:Untreated= -1D6 to location pr day
FRAGMENTS:Untreated= -1 HP to location pr hour

SURGERY:One attempt pr SKILL MEDICAL / 2 allowed pr 24 hours .
Round result down .Skill 10 = 4 attempts pr 24 hrs.
Surgical supplies required or penalties will occur


FIRST AID: Subtract 2 from roll on this table if successful first aid is received


*
GM makes hidden roll for CON too see if results /complication should be applied .Noting down all the hits a player character takes in the course of a session is a wise method to keep up.CON check can be modified by GM depending on circumstances i.e suffering burn wounds in a sewer might lead to increased risk of infection .

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I see the tables didnt make it through conversion very nicley- it will have to do .
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I see the tables didnt make it through conversion very nicley- it will have to do .
if you put CODE tags around them, they should format fine. Look at the # button in the editor, it'll look like this:
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4. LOCATION SPECIFIC CRITICAL TABLES:


D10 RESULT CRITICAL HITS TABLE HEAD
1 SERIOUS :Bleed time :10 min
CRITICAL : Bleed time 5 min
2 SERIOUS :Bleed time 10 min .Shock. Medical check one level more difficult
CRITICAL: Bleed time : 5 min .Shock .Medical check one level more difficult
3 SERIOUS: Bleed time .Shock .10 min
CRITICAL :Bleed time Shock. 5 min
4 SERIOUS : Bleed time 5 min .Shock .Loss of hearing: OBS-1
CRITICAL : Bleed time 2 ½ min. Shock. Loss of hearing OBS -2
5 SERIOUS: bleed time 5 min . Shock Disfigurement :CHARISMA -1**
CRITICAL : bleed time 2 ½ min . Shock Disfigurement : CHARISMA -2**
6 SERIOUS :bleed time 5 min .Hemorrhaging.
Horrible disfigurement :CHARISMA -1D6**
CRITICAL :bleed time 2 ½ min .Hemorrhaging
Horrible disfigurement :CHARISMA -1D6**
7 SERIOUS : bleed time 10 min. Internal hemorrhaging
Loss of eyesight : AG-1 ,OBS-2
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min. Internal hemorrhaging .
Loss of eyesight : AG-2 ,OBS-3
8 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min. Internal hemorrhaging.
Brain damage :INTEL : -1
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min. Internal hemorrhaging.
Brain damage :INTEL : -2
9 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min . Internal hemorrhaging
Brain damage: INTEL: - 2, 1D6 skills -1D6 points*
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min. Internal hemorrhaging
Brain dmg. :INTEL: -3 , 1D6 skills -1D6 points
10 SERIOUS :bleed time 1 min. Extreme Hemorrhaging. Difficult medical to treat
CRITICAL: Immediate death
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you'll have to reformat the tables, then repost them inside the CODE tags, though...
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TASK : COMPUTER:EASY+1

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if you put CODE tags around them, they should format fine. Look at the # button in the editor, it'll look like this:
Code:
4. LOCATION SPECIFIC CRITICAL TABLES:


D10 RESULT CRITICAL HITS TABLE HEAD
1 SERIOUS :Bleed time :10 min
CRITICAL : Bleed time 5 min
2 SERIOUS :Bleed time 10 min .Shock. Medical check one level more difficult
CRITICAL: Bleed time : 5 min .Shock .Medical check one level more difficult
3 SERIOUS: Bleed time .Shock .10 min
CRITICAL :Bleed time Shock. 5 min
4 SERIOUS : Bleed time 5 min .Shock .Loss of hearing: OBS-1
CRITICAL : Bleed time 2 ½ min. Shock. Loss of hearing OBS -2
5 SERIOUS: bleed time 5 min . Shock Disfigurement :CHARISMA -1**
CRITICAL : bleed time 2 ½ min . Shock Disfigurement : CHARISMA -2**
6 SERIOUS :bleed time 5 min .Hemorrhaging.
Horrible disfigurement :CHARISMA -1D6**
CRITICAL :bleed time 2 ½ min .Hemorrhaging
Horrible disfigurement :CHARISMA -1D6**
7 SERIOUS : bleed time 10 min. Internal hemorrhaging
Loss of eyesight : AG-1 ,OBS-2
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min. Internal hemorrhaging .
Loss of eyesight : AG-2 ,OBS-3
8 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min. Internal hemorrhaging.
Brain damage :INTEL : -1
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min. Internal hemorrhaging.
Brain damage :INTEL : -2
9 SERIOUS: bleed time 10 min . Internal hemorrhaging
Brain damage: INTEL: - 2, 1D6 skills -1D6 points*
CRITICAL: bleed time 5 min. Internal hemorrhaging
Brain dmg. :INTEL: -3 , 1D6 skills -1D6 points
10 SERIOUS :bleed time 1 min. Extreme Hemorrhaging. Difficult medical to treat
CRITICAL: Immediate death
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you'll have to reformat the tables, then repost them inside the CODE tags, though...
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Bona nit!

I like the your system, specially the "critical hit" rule. With the tables provided, not only is a fast and more realistic system, but gives more importance to the characters with medical skills and to the equipment needed to do the related tasks. I use v2.2 system and, though I'm quite satisfied with the rules about wounds and healing, it is true that with the "official" rules, the importance of a quick medical intervention is nearly ignored unless you are treating a character in the "critical zone". It's a good way to boost the role of any character with medical knowledges and to give a sense of "urgence" to the needed medical care of an injury in the field.

For the moment I will keep the "official rules" about wound levels, lost of conciousness, lost of initiative, etc, but adding the critical hits rule, the bleeding rule, the tables and the part of "complications". Mmmm.. I must remember to adjust your task difficult levels to v2.2. Probably in a pair of weeks I will have some feedback about one of our game sessions. I will keep your informed HQ.

BTW: If my memory doesn't fail to me, you used d10 (or d12?) instead of d6 when determining the small arms damage. Will you keep using this rule with the new system?
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Glad to have opinions and also -if you playtest some of it ,I would be thrilled to hear how it fares.

Good memory .We use D12 instead of the old D6 to make it a bit more dangerous.Yes-we will keep it .The thing about these rules is that the GM needs to keep an exact log of all wounds each PC gets ,and keep tally of status as the sessions unfolds.So a bit more bookkeeping for the GM ,but I find it worth it .Thinking about making a character wound sheet to quickly note results .

The reason is that we collectivly found that max dmg with a pistol should be more than from a melee kick ( V.2.0 rules ) / i.e 6 hp pistol or 10 hp kick .Also the rules need to compensate the "style" in the group ,and keep it a hard game.

Also the PCs tend to be superior in many respects to the NPCs ,and a sense of risk and a real chance of KIAs in the party always adds to the suspense and drama I find,especially when players really care for their PCs that they have had for many seasons of sessions.

Cowardice becomes frequent and valor settles at its correct value .

Before the harder rules were implemented I noticed a lot more full auto storming the enemy positions type thing than now , where the guys are usually argueing about who is supposed to take point.

Anyways -rules are a work in progress . 4 more days to our next FtF - happy camper here ,counting the hours in front of my computer at work..

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Bona nit!

I like the your system, specially the "critical hit" rule. With the tables provided, not only is a fast and more realistic system, but gives more importance to the characters with medical skills and to the equipment needed to do the related tasks. I use v2.2 system and, though I'm quite satisfied with the rules about wounds and healing, it is true that with the "official" rules, the importance of a quick medical intervention is nearly ignored unless you are treating a character in the "critical zone". It's a good way to boost the role of any character with medical knowledges and to give a sense of "urgence" to the needed medical care of an injury in the field.

For the moment I will keep the "official rules" about wound levels, lost of conciousness, lost of initiative, etc, but adding the critical hits rule, the bleeding rule, the tables and the part of "complications". Mmmm.. I must remember to adjust your task difficult levels to v2.2. Probably in a pair of weeks I will have some feedback about one of our game sessions. I will keep your informed HQ.

BTW: If my memory doesn't fail to me, you used d10 (or d12?) instead of d6 when determining the small arms damage. Will you keep using this rule with the new system?
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Ok, here’s my promised feedback, tough we only needed to use your house rules about damage one time, for one serious injured character. Go in advance that we use v2.2 set of rules and we do not use your d12 system to determine damage. As I sad in we keep using the "official rules" plus your tables about critical hits, bleeding, etc.

In an action near Chelmno bridge and after he have missed an RPG shot against an armored polish gun truck, Staff Sergeant Richard Watts suffered a serious injury in his left arm when the mentioned truck returned fire with its KPV machinegun. Given the damage code for the KPV, a critical hit was granted. Fortunately for the character, the critical result was in the lower part of the table (bleeding in 10 minutes). Accordingly to the v2.2 rules, he rolled against Constitution (failed) and lost consciousness.

Here’s the interesting part. The tactical player (everyone has his own tactical, cold player inside) could think “Ok, Watts is KO but, as he is laying behind cover . So, he will survive. Everyone must continue with his/her duties until this nasty situation have passed by.” But this is not true because Watts is bleeding to death. Something must be done. Quick decisions must be taken and plans must be changed if medical attention must be given to Watts. Covering fire, smoke grenades... a little subplot developed around the rescue of Watts in the middle of the firefight. Interesting, risky and entertaining (with a happy end for Watts). Major Raquel Àvila, the medic of the group, played a critical role in the rescue and keeping Watts alive.

So, the results are satisfactory in terms of gameplay and we will keep using the tables in our next games.
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Ho ho KPV to the arm ! Rough !

You got to respect 14,5 mm HMGs . Instant crit hit too.

Your description of the session firefight makes a bit envious - I still have a 30 day wait for my next FtF.

I am happy that you could use the rules some in your game ,and certainly proud that something we came up with has been on another partys gaming table .

I like the factor of having to start a whole new operation to save a bleeding char during a firefight etc .

Feel free to use ,modify etc as you see fit.

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Ok, here’s my promised feedback, tough we only needed to use your house rules about damage one time, for one serious injured character. Go in advance that we use v2.2 set of rules and we do not use your d12 system to determine damage. As I sad in we keep using the "official rules" plus your tables about critical hits, bleeding, etc.

In an action near Chelmno bridge and after he have missed an RPG shot against an armored polish gun truck, Staff Sergeant Richard Watts suffered a serious injury in his left arm when the mentioned truck returned fire with its KPV machinegun. Given the damage code for the KPV, a critical hit was granted. Fortunately for the character, the critical result was in the lower part of the table (bleeding in 10 minutes). Accordingly to the v2.2 rules, he rolled against Constitution (failed) and lost consciousness.

Here’s the interesting part. The tactical player (everyone has his own tactical, cold player inside) could think “Ok, Watts is KO but, as he is laying behind cover . So, he will survive. Everyone must continue with his/her duties until this nasty situation have passed by.” But this is not true because Watts is bleeding to death. Something must be done. Quick decisions must be taken and plans must be changed if medical attention must be given to Watts. Covering fire, smoke grenades... a little subplot developed around the rescue of Watts in the middle of the firefight. Interesting, risky and entertaining (with a happy end for Watts). Major Raquel Àvila, the medic of the group, played a critical role in the rescue and keeping Watts alive.

So, the results are satisfactory in terms of gameplay and we will keep using the tables in our next games.
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