The Best That Never Was 2 (Prototypes)

[Brit]

That's OK. Prowling the 'what if?' modelling websites is one of my interests...

Of course, having now properly read what you posted I now realise that it was a Leopold 1 hull with a T72 turret... so... is the opposite version therefore a possibility?

I have also seen photos of a 'testbed' tank which was an M48 (I think) with a Leopold 2 turret. Again, all very 'Twilight 2000'. And when the Merkava was being developed I think it's turret was first fitted to an M48 or M60 hull... or was it the other way around?

[Draq]

Or the m60 with a m1 turret

[Tegyrius]

I want an M1 with an M1 turret with a Bradley turret with an AAVP7A1 turret.

- C.

[Brit]

Originally Posted by Draq

Or the m60 with a m1 turret

I think I've seen other names for it but that would / could be the M60-2000:

These are 'drawings' but there are photos on the web:

http://www.armedassault.info/index.p...id=1576&game=0

[Brit]

Something else I found. The M111 Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft.

(Found here: http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index....light,m48.html & http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=4777.0 ).

[CDAT]

I would have loved to have seen one of the early thoughts for the M1 had made it. As I understand it early on the plan was to have the 25mm Bushmaster be the Coaxial so they could use it rather than the main gun against MICV.

[copeab]

A 25mm Bushmaster and a useful amount of ammo will eat up significantly mote turret space than a 7.62mm MG and it's ammo. What do you strip out of the turret to make room?

[CDAT]

Originally Posted by copeab

A 25mm Bushmaster and a useful amount of ammo will eat up significantly mote turret space than a 7.62mm MG and it's ammo. What do you strip out of the turret to make room?

Now how much ammo is needed to be "Useful"? If you pull the M240 and the 10,000rds of 7.62 how much 25mm could you fit with the gun? I do not know, but even say it is only 1000rds 25mm I would find that very useful as it would have your 120mm last longer. Of the 40 main gun rounds that the tank carries only 17 of them are in your ready rack and can be used easily. Yes you can use the other 23rds, but they are much more difficult to use. Normaly they are used to reload the ready rack.

[rcaf_777]

Originally Posted by Draq

Or the m60 with a m1 turret

M60-2000 Main Battle Tank or 120S made by General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M60-2000_Main_Battle_Tank

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by rcaf_777

M60-2000 Main Battle Tank or 120S made by General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS)

Should I say it?

[Draq]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

Should I say it?

I don't think everyone has spent as inordinate amounts of time as I have reading the PDF database...

[Matt Wiser]

Originally Posted by rcaf_777

M60-2000 Main Battle Tank or 120S made by General Dynamics Land Systems (GDLS)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M60-2000_Main_Battle_Tank

I see someone lifted that from the Red Dawn fiction page!

[rcaf_777]

While the Roland SAM is an actual weapon system used by the French and few others. It was a one time consider as US Army SAM system mounted on an M109 chassis (see below), while this system was not picked up, the system was modified by the USAF and used as a training tool for anti SAM training. Which is the second picture of the system mounted on a truck.

[WallShadow]

Originally Posted by rcaf_777

While the Roland SAM is an actual weapon system used by the French and few others. It was a one time consider as US Army SAM system mounted on an M109 chassis (see below), while this system was not picked up, the system was modified by the USAF and used as a training tool for anti SAM training. Which is the second picture of the system mounted on a truck.

French system, eh? Would be tricky trying to get reloads from the French post-whoops without selling your soul.

[rcaf_777]

Franco-German actually, the US had plans to make the missile in the US like many other foreign weapons systems

If this system was used by the US that would mean that three NATO countries would have been using it

I don't France would say no to money during the conflict

[Brit]

Originally Posted by Brit

And when the Merkava was being developed I think it's turret was first fitted to an M48 or M60 hull... or was it the other way around?

There are some photos of that vehicle on this thread: http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling.../t/149626.aspx plus a line drawing of a 'what if?' Merkava variant.