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Old 11-09-2009, 01:51 PM
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Hello guys! I was wondering... you know if there is something like a Warsaw Pact Vehicle Guide? Maybe some Twilight enthusiast got the idea in the past and write something like that.

For example, I remember a nice "Czechoslovak Vehicle Guide" on Chico's T2k file dump. Other stuff like that?
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Old 11-09-2009, 02:54 PM
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One of the core books for Twilight 2000 is the Soviet Combat Vehicle Handbook, and it includes Warsaw Pact vehicles and some TOEs and OOBs (which, since the book's publication in 1990, many in forums such as this one have pointed out some errors and things that don't make sense).
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Old 11-09-2009, 03:57 PM
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have pointed out some errors and things that don't make sense
I have that book... what kind of errors and meaningless things are you talking about? I'm developing an interest on TOEs and OOBs so your corrections could be useful.
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Old 11-09-2009, 05:19 PM
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Welcome to the forum, Muti!

IIRC, Chico intended to create a Polish Army vehicle guide but other time consuming T2K projects have taken precedence as of late. I really hope he's able to produce a PAVG someday soon since a lot of us GM or play in games set in Poland. His Czech Army VG is simply brilliant.
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I have that book... what kind of errors and meaningless things are you talking about? I'm developing an interest on TOEs and OOBs so your corrections could be useful.
They're not my corrections; there's some things that have been pointed out by posters here and there over the years (and that's true in general of the original GDW booklets). I'll look in my hard drive and see exactly what I have about it, but you may have to nag me, because right now I'm really sick. The H1N1 I have has also allowed a secondary bacterial infection into my sinuses and possibly other parts of my body, and I've pretty much been running an almost-continuous fever for a month. My thinking and memory are very screwed up. I'm deliberately not doing anything related to my web site right now because it will probably turn out to be a mess.

OK, that was a ramble...
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Chico has some highly detailed ORBATs for the WP, which are based on extensive research... he's got some of them up on his website I think, he's also run a comparison to the Soviet Vehicle Guide unit IDs/and replaced them with historic ID's. It seems GDW had mixed up a bunch of the later mobilizing divisional army ID's. He's also got good stuff on mobilization only, training, and depot divisions, for Poland, GDR, & Hungary. Not sure about the rest of the WP, besides the Czech's which you'd mentioned.
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Old 11-10-2009, 04:06 PM
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Thank you for the replies guys and thak you Raellus for the welcome!

To Paul: hang on man! By the way... your site is impressive. Lots of details just as I like.

About the TOEs, some days ago I found on the net the three Field Manuals on "The Soviet Army" and, on volume 100-2-3 ,I discovered LOTS of TOEs obtained by the US Army from unclassified information on Soviet ground forces. Do you think that they can be used as TOEs for other countries of the WarPac?
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