Sweden in T2K

[mpipes]

The Soviets routinely violated Swedish waters during the Cold War. The air routes to the Atlantic also run through Swedish air space. Anyone really think the Soviets would respect Swedish borders in a shooting war?

[Raellus]

I do. I don't think they'd push violations too far, simply because they don't need another enemy.

[RN7]

Originally Posted by Olefin

The Russians attacked a bunch of neutral countries during the war - they hit France with nukes, a bunch of African countries, nuked Venezuela and Mexico and other countries to deny the US the refineries there

and considering how small Sweden's armed forces are I highly doubt they cared too much about getting attacked by Sweden

Sweden's armed forces are not small, particularly it army which is by far the most powerful in Scandinavia. Sweden sends that into Norway or Finland, or even against the Kola Peninsula and its game up in the region for the Soviets.

[Olefin]

Sweden has no nukes - the Soviets do. Sweden declares war and they end up with Stockholm sharing Oslo's fate. If the Soviets nuked the French oil centers in V2.2 and got away with it (France having a bunch of nukes of its own) I highly doubt that the Swedish Armed forces would deter them from taking out the biggest Swedish refineries (when Sweden has no nukes)

[RN7]

Originally Posted by Olefin

Sweden has no nukes - the Soviets do. Sweden declares war and they end up with Stockholm sharing Oslo's fate. If the Soviets nuked the French oil centers in V2.2 and got away with it (France having a bunch of nukes of its own) I highly doubt that the Swedish Armed forces would deter them from taking out the biggest Swedish refineries (when Sweden has no nukes)

I'm playing V1 and France want nuked. And in V2 if the Soviets nuke Sweden then Sweden enters the war against them, as I don't think they would trust the Soviets not to nuke Stockholm after they have most likely nuked Goteborg which is their second largest city and the major oil refining centre and port.

[Raellus]

I'm sure that we had a thread devoted to this topic but searches of the forum and forum map haven't turned it up.

I can see Sweden becoming a Baltic regional power in the wake of OMEGA and the departure of most [loyal] Soviet forces from Poland. I created a unit of Swedish-sponsored mercenaries that could make an appearance in Northern Poland in early 2001 or so. Here is it, for your perusal. Constructive feedback is welcome.

[RN7]

Originally Posted by Raellus

I'm sure that we had a thread devoted to this topic but searches of the forum and forum map haven't turned it up.

I can see Sweden becoming a Baltic regional power in the wake of OMEGA and the departure of most [loyal] Soviet forces from Poland. I created a unit of Swedish-sponsored mercenaries that could make an appearance in Northern Poland in early 2001 or so. Here is it, for your perusal. Constructive feedback is welcome.

I can't open that document Raellus

[Raellus]

I'm sorry, RN7. I'm not sure what the problem is. I am able to open from the link. Do you have a fairly up-to-date copy of Word? I'll convert it to a PDF and attach that. Hopefully, that'll work for you. Please let me know if it doesn't. I may have to contact Kato to ask for a fix. Thanks for letting me know.

[Raellus]

If the Word doc doesn't open for you, hopefully, this PDF will.

[Olefin]

Both worked for me - assume the whole idea for the Swedes is "plausible deniability" with the weapons choice you gave them - i.e. we arent going to see any Swedish armored vehicles show up with them. How about the Bv206 - it was in use with multiple countries and could be something that doesnt scream "The Swedes are here!"

[RN7]

Originally Posted by Raellus

If the Word doc doesn't open for you, hopefully, this PDF will.

That worked fine thanks

[RN7]

Originally Posted by Raellus

I'm sure that we had a thread devoted to this topic but searches of the forum and forum map haven't turned it up.

I can see Sweden becoming a Baltic regional power in the wake of OMEGA and the departure of most [loyal] Soviet forces from Poland. I created a unit of Swedish-sponsored mercenaries that could make an appearance in Northern Poland in early 2001 or so. Here is it, for your perusal. Constructive feedback is welcome.

You in fact started that this thread

http://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=5513

[Raellus]

I thought I did but I couldn't find it. Thanks. I will merge these two threads presently.