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Old 02-19-2020, 10:48 AM
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While not a Twilight 2000 book it gives some good scenarios for running Battle of Berlin adventures.
Also the cover is so Twilight 2000.
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Old 02-20-2020, 04:03 AM
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And the author is a founding member and regular contributer to this forum?
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Jason shoots, he scores!!!
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Question, how long could the allies hold out at West Berlin.
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Question, how long could the allies hold out at West Berlin.
About as long as it takes for a nuke to fly from the USSR?
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If nukes were not used against Berlin (by either side), then the forces in West Berlin could probably have held out for some time. There's a thread somewhere from a few years back were a few of us posted some info about the stockpiles that the West Berlin government had put in place - food, electricity, water, fuel and so on.
West Berlin, being completely cut-off by the Soviets from electricity from West Germany in 1952, developed a long-term plan for its own power supply and part of that plan was one years worth of natural gas. They were already isolated by the Soviets so it wasn't much more of an effort to put longer term stockpiles in place.

The specific links are on the second page posted by RN7 (post #43) and myself (post #55).
I've also added "berlin" and "west berlin" to the tags for that thread so hopefully it'll be easier to find in the future. I wanted to add "stasi" as well but we're limited to just two tags each it seems
As an aside, Jason Weiser was one of the contributors to the thread.
https://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.php?t=5244
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I wanted to add "stasi" as well but we're limited to just two tags each it seems
Done on your behalf.
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The cover art's from this article in ARMOR magazine: https://www.benning.army.mil/Armor/e...ber1994web.pdf

The actual East German plan was code named Operation CENTER. The only Soviet force involved was to be the 6th Guards Motor-Rifle Brigade in East Berlin, all other forces were East German: 1st MRD from Potsdam, a battalion from the 40th Air Assault Regiment, the nine Frontier Guards Regiments that manned the Berlin Wall, two "People's Police Alert Units" and four battalions of East German Worker's Militia from Potsdam.

They expected to take the city in three days. More likely, a week. And the attack was to start before the Pact crossed the border into West Germany proper.

And the Stasi had very detailed plans for the administration of West Berlin after it fell.....including lists of those to be arrested (those were destroyed prior to reunification, but they are known to have existed).

Check the article out: it's pretty good.
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Done on your behalf.
Thanks Leg however I meant the thread regarding Berlin in 1996
I've added "Berlin" to the tags for this thread so searches will link the two threads.
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Do you have an electronic version of this (preferably a PDF, but I can convert)? I usually read when I'm taking my mother to her appointments, or in bed.
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The cover art's from this article in ARMOR magazine: https://www.benning.army.mil/Armor/e...ber1994web.pdf

The actual East German plan was code named Operation CENTER. The only Soviet force involved was to be the 6th Guards Motor-Rifle Brigade in East Berlin, all other forces were East German: 1st MRD from Potsdam, a battalion from the 40th Air Assault Regiment, the nine Frontier Guards Regiments that manned the Berlin Wall, two "People's Police Alert Units" and four battalions of East German Worker's Militia from Potsdam.
So if the East Germans failed to take West Berlin, the Soviets would not be the once to be blame.
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I want to thank everyone for all the support for the new book, I don't even have a copy yet! (Comp copies for authors are slow to arrive, its a well known industry thing). Please let me know who has recieved their copy. I hope everyone has as much fun with it as I had writing it.

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For the interested, the National Archives has a copy of the Berlin Ops Plan from 1962.

https://catalog.archives.gov/id/6036651
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