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Old 12-07-2009, 04:00 PM
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Orders of Battle:

Warsaw Pact, 1 OCT 1996:

Western TVD (Theater of Military Operations):
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0...ZDc2OTY3&hl=en

Northwestern TVD:
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0...MTNhNDlm&hl=en

Southwestern TVD:
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0...OWMzZmI1&hl=en

Southern TVD:
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0...NTBkOTgy&hl=en

Far Eastern TVD:
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0...Y2E5YWMx&hl=en

RGVK (Reserve of the High Command):
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0...MWJjYjhl&hl=en

and a bonus:

Chinese People's Liberation Army, 1 OCT 96, version 1.5:
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0...ZTU4YzFk&hl=en (edit: the newer version was on my thumb drive...)

This will all get onto my website http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeedox4/ sometime in the next week or 2...
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Old 12-07-2009, 04:53 PM
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Orders of Battle:

Chinese People's Liberation Army, 1 OCT 96, version 1:
http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0...NGI5MGYw&hl=en (a newer version is on the hard drive at home...)
This is excellent. I have a month-long break from school coming up after Christmas, and I have been giving serious thought to getting back into The Storm in Germany and/or the Sino-Soviet War. If you don't mind, I may simply appropriate your OB as of 01 OCT for the PLA and guide towards it during 1996.

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Old 12-07-2009, 05:23 PM
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This is excellent. I have a month-long break from school coming up after Christmas, and I have been giving serious thought to getting back into The Storm in Germany and/or the Sino-Soviet War. If you don't mind, I may simply appropriate your OB as of 01 OCT for the PLA and guide towards it during 1996.

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I altered the RL historical Group Army designations to match the ones in your earlier work, as best as I could. Since the gap is so huge, I fudged it, and assumed (and we all know what assuming makes...) that the net result of the 1996 campaign season on the Chinese army was zero - that the 80-some new divisions feared by the Soviet politburu prior to Tchaikovskiy were either not raised, raised and destroyed during the year, disbanded to bring existing units back up to strength, or simply took the unit numbers of units that had been wiped out. On the equipment, heavy mortars and truck and trailer-mounted MRLs have become dominant, easier to manufacture than traditional tube artillery. Higher-level reserve artillery units are equipped with Western-supplied Assault Breaker systems - essentially HIMARS rocket systems firing ATACMS with Skeet submunitions.

The reinforcements listed in the newer version of the orbat are in keeping in line with your supposition that 80 divisions could be raised in 5 months. 75% of those units are committed to the Northern War Zone, the rest split between the Strategic Reserve (50%), the far west (25%) and the Vietnamese border (25%). They are listed going forward so that we can wargame the Far Eastern campaign, initially for the Soviet Army Guide but also for a Northeast Asia Sourcebook, which will hopefully eventually cover Hanoi-Anchorage.
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...the net result of the 1996 campaign season on the Chinese army was zero - that the 80-some new divisions feared by the Soviet politburu prior to Tchaikovskiy were either not raised, raised and destroyed during the year, disbanded to bring existing units back up to strength, or simply took the unit numbers of units that had been wiped out.
Seems like a logical approach.
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Chico, you are simply A M A Z I N G !
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Old 12-10-2009, 02:25 AM
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Well that's true ...indeed...however Muti you might have use for some of mine and HQs work - loads of tanks,airplanes and whatnot

http://thebigbookofwar.50megs.com/DOX/
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Well that's true ...indeed...however Muti you might have use for some of mine and HQs work - loads of tanks,airplanes and whatnot

http://thebigbookofwar.50megs.com/DOX/
Thank you! I really appreciated it.
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Thanks!

Looking at the file history, I started working on that document in January 2007. Research for it started in early 2004 and called on sources in English, Bulgarian, Czech, Hungarian, Polish, Romanian and Russia. At times the rest of the guys in the DC Group were frustrated that when it was looking like an end was in sight, I'd find another source and re-open a can of worms (like when I discovered a comprehensive list of Mobilization-only divisions for 1985). I'm glad its done!!! (Although I need to do an update to put the division's readiness category on the TVD-level sheet rather than leaving on the summary document).

It's up to Jason to transform it into a Vehicle Guide!
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Finally I had the time to read all the OOBs but now I have several doubts mainly because my english is not good as yours!

1) First of all, what do you mean for "Direct reporting"? Maybe something like: "Independent units"?

2) What do you mean for "Spare"? For example: "Spare Artillery Brigade" or "Spare Motor-Rifle Division"?

3) What is the TOE for a Missile Brigade? And for a KGB Motor-Rifle Regiment, a Border Guard Battalion and a Special Border Control Battalion?

Thank you in advance for your patience!

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