raketenjagdpanzer
12-29-2010, 01:38 PM
I thought T2k was all but dead in the most academic of senses! Good to see I was proved wrong.
I'd like to start a T2k game, just gotta find the right group.
One of the coolest resources I've found is a papercraft LAV-25 in 1/72 scale (so it works with true 25mm minis); unfortunately that's the only modern armor I've found in that scale. If I'm going to go forward with it I'll have to get a few other actual plastic kits (Hasegawa, Italiari etc.).
As far as the actual setting goes, tell me what you think of these tweaks:
Belgium supported the rest of NATO, but after the initial exchange they were forcibly annexed by France resulting in much the same situation that exists now, except armed forces and dependents escaped into NW Germany. The Netherlands closed their borders and declared themselves neutral in the conflict but allow humanitarian aid as they can.
Italy follows suit, and does not stop reinforcement of troops in SE Europe as well as some to the RDF areas in the middle east through the Suez. However, Spain takes its toll as it aligns with France (after being hit with three nukes during November of 1997), withdrawing support and threatening to shut down the Straits of Gibraltar.
A trickle of fuel still comes in from both CivGov and MilGov shipments for aircraft, but the total number of flyable combat a/c in Europe under NATO/US command is less than two dozen, and they are scrupulously hoarded for extreme emergency purposes only (to the point that with the exception of two AH-6 "Little Bird" helos for observation and scouting, none were deployed during the ill fated "push to the Baltic").
Once Op-Ord Omega kicks off, while some heavy armor will be left for the Germans, the bulk of it will be transferred to the middle east to help secure and hold gas and oil production facilities.
Things "back home" are bad and getting worse in terms of famine and disease.
The US Navy has two operational carriers left, one as outlined in the RDF and another in the Pacific (John F. Kennedy). The USS Saratoga ran aground after considerable anti-ship missile damage near Port Richie, FL. While her helos and prop a/c were able to launch and fly to the few undamaged airfields on Florida's west coast, her jet a/c (winnowed down to a single ad-hoc wing of 5 F18s, 3 F14s and 5 A6E's) still sit in her hangar deck, unless they have been scavenged for parts by privateers who roam the Florida coasts. Repeated lashings by hurricanes since 1997 have left the Saratoga in very, very bad condition and at this point it would be a multiple years-long operation to get her underway again.
Japan was heavily damaged during the war, leading to anti-US sentiment so strong that a civilian push backed by police was undertaken to try and force the remaining US troops out of the country. Since the bases were operating at a bare minimum of personnel (and, for example, Kadena had suffered a runway-busting 1.5mt groundburst), this very nearly succeeded. Only direct intervention by the otherwise unoccupied JSDF kept the Japanese citizenry from lynching the remaining base support personnel and dependents. Most have transferred to "safer" havens like South Korea and Australia. Both MilGov and CivGov consider the bases US property but have no power projection to take them back. The official stance of the Japanese government is that the situation in the west is "tragic" and will officially declare support for a united US government "At the resolution of their current internal crisis."
As Australia was virtually untouched (save by EMP in Western Australia) by the war, it has become a haven for thousands of British and US Expats. While the Australian government is officially bound to the Commonwealth, and on paper is aligned with the Civil Government in the US, beyond token humanitarian aid to the UK and US it has remained out of any hostilities. US and UK Expats are treated with sympathy, however, as Australia has nearly boundless resources. In the cities, though, some native citizens are chafing at the ever-increasing influx of refugees and there is parliamentary discussion of closing the border. Some radical right politicians are calling for a wholesale deportation of US and UK (and Canadian) citizens, or internment in "immigration centers".
South Korea continues to be a staunch US ally: they welcomed personnel from the ousted Japanese bases and elsewhere in the far east. Problematically, South Korea has difficulty feeding it's own population, much less an additional virtual army of refugees. Fortunately most of those who come are military, and will gladly join up with US forces who have driven the North Koreans into a thin mountainous region just south of the Yalu river valley.
North Korea, predictably, exists purely as a rump state. Attempts by the NK army to appeal to China for aid have been rebuffed - China is virtually shattered, and well remembers US aid during the war with Russia. Indeed, units on the NK/Chinese border have established a shoot-on-sight policy with those attempting to cross into Southern China.
Other countries of note: Mexico has rapidly turned up oil production, but climate problems have caused poor growing seasons, and a starving population cannot eat oil...
Cuba, per agreements with the Soviet Union, attacked the Southern US with Division Cuba, through Texas and a few abortive attempts to take Southern Florida.
Brazil is wholly energy independent, was spared EMP or direct strikes, and possesses two aircraft carriers and virtually unlimited arable land (depending on how much jungle they're willing to clear-cut), as well as a largely Italian and German armed military (pre-war, obviously). Brazil may well be the lone non-nuclear superpower in the world. Somewhat like Australia, sympathetic to refugees from the US/UK - but less tolerant of "permanent refugee" status. Acknowledges MilGov as the legitimate US Government.
Phew.
Anything too egregious there, fellows?
I'd like to start a T2k game, just gotta find the right group.
One of the coolest resources I've found is a papercraft LAV-25 in 1/72 scale (so it works with true 25mm minis); unfortunately that's the only modern armor I've found in that scale. If I'm going to go forward with it I'll have to get a few other actual plastic kits (Hasegawa, Italiari etc.).
As far as the actual setting goes, tell me what you think of these tweaks:
Belgium supported the rest of NATO, but after the initial exchange they were forcibly annexed by France resulting in much the same situation that exists now, except armed forces and dependents escaped into NW Germany. The Netherlands closed their borders and declared themselves neutral in the conflict but allow humanitarian aid as they can.
Italy follows suit, and does not stop reinforcement of troops in SE Europe as well as some to the RDF areas in the middle east through the Suez. However, Spain takes its toll as it aligns with France (after being hit with three nukes during November of 1997), withdrawing support and threatening to shut down the Straits of Gibraltar.
A trickle of fuel still comes in from both CivGov and MilGov shipments for aircraft, but the total number of flyable combat a/c in Europe under NATO/US command is less than two dozen, and they are scrupulously hoarded for extreme emergency purposes only (to the point that with the exception of two AH-6 "Little Bird" helos for observation and scouting, none were deployed during the ill fated "push to the Baltic").
Once Op-Ord Omega kicks off, while some heavy armor will be left for the Germans, the bulk of it will be transferred to the middle east to help secure and hold gas and oil production facilities.
Things "back home" are bad and getting worse in terms of famine and disease.
The US Navy has two operational carriers left, one as outlined in the RDF and another in the Pacific (John F. Kennedy). The USS Saratoga ran aground after considerable anti-ship missile damage near Port Richie, FL. While her helos and prop a/c were able to launch and fly to the few undamaged airfields on Florida's west coast, her jet a/c (winnowed down to a single ad-hoc wing of 5 F18s, 3 F14s and 5 A6E's) still sit in her hangar deck, unless they have been scavenged for parts by privateers who roam the Florida coasts. Repeated lashings by hurricanes since 1997 have left the Saratoga in very, very bad condition and at this point it would be a multiple years-long operation to get her underway again.
Japan was heavily damaged during the war, leading to anti-US sentiment so strong that a civilian push backed by police was undertaken to try and force the remaining US troops out of the country. Since the bases were operating at a bare minimum of personnel (and, for example, Kadena had suffered a runway-busting 1.5mt groundburst), this very nearly succeeded. Only direct intervention by the otherwise unoccupied JSDF kept the Japanese citizenry from lynching the remaining base support personnel and dependents. Most have transferred to "safer" havens like South Korea and Australia. Both MilGov and CivGov consider the bases US property but have no power projection to take them back. The official stance of the Japanese government is that the situation in the west is "tragic" and will officially declare support for a united US government "At the resolution of their current internal crisis."
As Australia was virtually untouched (save by EMP in Western Australia) by the war, it has become a haven for thousands of British and US Expats. While the Australian government is officially bound to the Commonwealth, and on paper is aligned with the Civil Government in the US, beyond token humanitarian aid to the UK and US it has remained out of any hostilities. US and UK Expats are treated with sympathy, however, as Australia has nearly boundless resources. In the cities, though, some native citizens are chafing at the ever-increasing influx of refugees and there is parliamentary discussion of closing the border. Some radical right politicians are calling for a wholesale deportation of US and UK (and Canadian) citizens, or internment in "immigration centers".
South Korea continues to be a staunch US ally: they welcomed personnel from the ousted Japanese bases and elsewhere in the far east. Problematically, South Korea has difficulty feeding it's own population, much less an additional virtual army of refugees. Fortunately most of those who come are military, and will gladly join up with US forces who have driven the North Koreans into a thin mountainous region just south of the Yalu river valley.
North Korea, predictably, exists purely as a rump state. Attempts by the NK army to appeal to China for aid have been rebuffed - China is virtually shattered, and well remembers US aid during the war with Russia. Indeed, units on the NK/Chinese border have established a shoot-on-sight policy with those attempting to cross into Southern China.
Other countries of note: Mexico has rapidly turned up oil production, but climate problems have caused poor growing seasons, and a starving population cannot eat oil...
Cuba, per agreements with the Soviet Union, attacked the Southern US with Division Cuba, through Texas and a few abortive attempts to take Southern Florida.
Brazil is wholly energy independent, was spared EMP or direct strikes, and possesses two aircraft carriers and virtually unlimited arable land (depending on how much jungle they're willing to clear-cut), as well as a largely Italian and German armed military (pre-war, obviously). Brazil may well be the lone non-nuclear superpower in the world. Somewhat like Australia, sympathetic to refugees from the US/UK - but less tolerant of "permanent refugee" status. Acknowledges MilGov as the legitimate US Government.
Phew.
Anything too egregious there, fellows?