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Old 02-19-2010, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Targan View Post
I'm happy to be corrected but from memory wasn't Norfolk only targeted with one nuclear warhead, and that malfunctioned/mis-targeted and detonated in the water somewhere out in Chesapeake Bay? I'm pretty sure that the port facilities in and around Norfolk were damaged by the resulting tsunami, not by nuclear blast.
Kalos72 is right. That's the Jacksonville near miss you're thinking about.

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Why Norfolk? I mean it was hit by a few nukes and the port a melted pile of sludge? I would think a more minor port advantageous to the Milgov...
Well if we can have a whole scenario set in L'vov after it got plastered by a MIRV (Bear's Den) then Norfolk can be used as a Milgov enclave.

Cheyenne Mountain took a 3Mt groundburst and survived in operational condition. That's within the facilities anticipated tolerances though. The part we should be griping about is that the fallout didn't irradiate Colorado Springs enough to make it uninhabitable for the next few decades, and therefore impossible to function as the HQ of Milgov. We never complain about that... but maybe we should.

I mean, Omaha as CivGov HQ after Offut AFB takes a hit? Maybe in my homebrew I'll move Milgov HQ to Denver and CivGov HQ to Lincoln NB or maybe Minneapolis-St. Paul MN.

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Also there is no mention of the troops going to the Middle East or anywhere else... and once more the issue of fuel supplies rears its ugly head when the only fuel available is from a drifting tanker....
The first mention of troops deploying from Operation Omega to the middle east is in the timeline for The RDF Sourcebook. Kalos72 mentions Howling Wilderness but I don't remember that reference and I'm away from my books at the moment.

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Where that asset (the surviving ships) is parked, doesn't matter at all.
Actually it matters a whole lot. The surviving fleet units must be anchored somewhere defensible so they don't fall into the wrong hands. They have to be anchored somewhere sheltered from storms and other natural hazards. They can't be left without crews in international waters or the French are just going to sail up, drop a prize crew aboard and rename it La Bonaparte and they'd be within their rights to do so. Perhaps Norfolk, as bad as it is, is literally the only port on the east coast that is

a) under Milgov control

b) large enough to handle the number of surviving ships.

c) is appropriately sheltered from the elements

d) has enough surviving facilities to even get one small dry dock working.

Remember, the bombs hit in November of 97. By Summer of 2000 there has been plenty of time for Milgov to spend resources getting some parts of the yard back in business.

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We are talking about how important a demolished Norfolk Naval Yard would be to the Enclave compared to moving to an area where they can feed themselves.
Once the men are ashore, they can use their LPCs to relocate to other enclaves, like the Ft. Dix enclave. Or if discharged by MilGov they could hoof it to the CivGov enclave in Maryland and sign up there too. Or just be discharged and start legging it for home to see if any of their friends or family made it. They don't have to sit there and starve.

The surviving fleet units don't have that luxury.


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