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Polish 6th Pomeranian Airborne Division
I can't find mention in canon of Poland's airborne formation. It's not mentioned in Going Home (1e) or the East Europe Sourcebook (2e). I checked the independent Polish militias (e.g. 1st Polish Free Legion, Gydnia Miiicya) to see if any of them started off as the 6th PAD, or were built around a 6th PAD cadre, but no dice (most of the independent Polish formations are ex-Border Guard units).
I doubt that the T2k writers didn't know about it. It has a famous heritage (see A Bridge Too Far), at least compared to other Warsaw Pact airborne formations, and was considered an elite unit by the Soviets. It's mentioned in various publications from the period in which the writing of the game took place. The EESB includes the Czechoslovakian Parachute Brigade. It seems like a strange and fairly glaring omission from the Polish OOB. Am I missing something? Is it mentioned in Challenge of another canonical source? -
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6th pomeranian
In black madonna its destroyed at the battle for Czestochowa, its last comander is guarding the black madonna.
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Still Missing
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"The rest [of the Battle of was Czestochowa (in 1997)] was anticlimax. Three hundred members of 4th and 16th Parachute Regiments broke out to the east to link up with 12th TD. The 230 survivors of 1st Parachute Regiment surrendered. The 6th Pomeranian Air Assault Division had ceased to exist." So, no more 6th Pomeranian Air Assault/Parachute Division. However, 300 Polish paratroopers linked up with the 12th TD, so where would they be c.2000? Neither Going Home nor the EESB mentions the whereabouts or status of the Polish 12th TD, so we still don't know where the 6th PAAD survivors are c.2000! Anyone know of any canonical info about the Polish 12th TD? -
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Yeah, as Nyrond24 said, check Black Madonna. It's got a lot of detail on the 6th AAD. IIRC there's even the inspirational quote the commander gave to his troops on the eve of battle.
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6th PVA Air Asslt BDE
Looking at orbat 89 and some other sources it looks like the 6th was downgraded to a brigade in 1989, with the regiments being downgraded to battalions. By my OB references that makes them pretty small, but 300 ish survivors is still going to gut that force.
Maybe the survivors were reconstituted following the Pact counteroffensive or were folded into a politically reliable national reserve along with the remnants of the Army and Navy Commandos? After all, Poland had a very strong tradition of both airborne and special operations troops. |
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"-- June 7 - Fighting around Czestochowa destroys the Jasna Gora, home to the Black Madonna. 300 members of the 4th and 16th Parachute Regiments break out to the east. The 1st Parachute Regiment surrenders, and the 6th Pomerian [sic] Air Assault Division ceases to exist. The survivors of the Polish 12th Tank Division and Polish 2nd Motorized Rifle Division escape up the Vistula." According to this timeline: https://i.4pcdn.org/tg/1433519198937.pdf. Black Madonna has them linking up with the 12th.
On July 9, tactical nukes start flying and NATO withdraws to Germany. The 2nd MRD was mauled and converted to horse cavalry. In 2000, it is in Gdynia with 200 cavalry. (East European SB). 12th Cavalry was formed from the survivors of the 11th Tank Division (Koscierzyna/Gniew/Tczew, 1500 cavalry). (EESB) If you'd like, you can assume that the 12th Cavalry also included remnants from the 12th Tank Division as well as the 11th, which would account for the numbering of the cavalry division. This would place the survivors of the 6th as elements of the 12th Cavalry and/or the 2nd. With the nukes flying not long after the survivors broke out of Czestochowa, I wouldn't have them being maintained by higher HQ as a special cadre. In the crash of civilization, I'd have them absorbed into the 12th or 2nd, perhaps as an elite squadron, but there wouldn't be too many left by 2000. |
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The other elite formations in the Polish armed forces during the Cold War were the 7th Naval Assault Division (aka Marines), which is accounted for in T2k canon, and the Podhale Mountain Brigade, which, AFAIK, is not. It's possible that the survivors of 6th Pomeranian Parachute/Air Assault Division (or Brigade) were absorbed into one of those other "elite" units. However, if that were the case with the 7th Marine Division, AFAIK, it's not mentioned in any of the canonical descriptions of that formation. Come to think of it, where is the Mountain Brigade? Is it mentioned at all in canon? IRL, it was technically part of the Border Guard but I don't recall seeing it mentioned in any of the several entries for Polish Border Guard units in canon. I'll have to take a closer look at that. Quote:
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Airborne Armor
It's interesting to note that the 6th Pomeranian Parachute Division was equipped with OT-64 APCs and ASU-85 self-propelled assault guns (withdrawn from service in the late 1970s but presumably kept in reserve).
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WRT the OT64s, my references show them as alternate transportation in the event the unit was going to be committed outside its normal role. Very easy to add a mechanized/motorized ops workup into the training cycle for China given their likely role as a “fire brigade” and the likely limitations on airborne/air assault ops posed by western supplied MANPADS and SAMs. Kind of like the “airborne-mech” units in 8ID during the earlier era of the Cold War. Last edited by Homer; 07-24-2023 at 02:03 PM. |
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