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Remington 870 series 13 24.07%
Mossberg 500 series 12 22.22%
Franchi SPAS-12 8 14.81%
Browning Auto-5M 3 5.56%
H&K CAW 8 14.81%
Manufrance RPS 0 0%
Other (please specify in post) 10 18.52%
None. What's the point? 0 0%
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Old 02-04-2010, 08:35 PM
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Ditto. What's your favorite shotty?
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I think the Pancor Jackhammer is the most interesting -- it's not only automatic, you can turn the ammo cassette into an antipersonnel mine!
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The Mossberg was the one I selected. Why, because it's the only one from the list I've actually shot (although I think it was the 590).
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H&K CAWS. What a concept.
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I always wanted to find a way to convert a H & K CAW into a belt-fed support weapon. Mounted on a vehicle's pintle mount, I think it would be a very good, short-range anti-ambush weapon.
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I chose Other because although I would happily pick the Pancor Jackhammer and the HK CAWS, I can't decide between the two although I lean towards the Jackhammer because you didn't need specialist ammunition for it.
While I've had some slight experience with shotguns I have no idea what it was except that it was a friend's under/over trap gun and the only other one I've used was another friend's Winchester Ranger pump-action.
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Jackahmmer! I read an article about those in the mid 80s and it was just plain cool! And the issue of rounds melting in the chamber from fast firing which the SEALS complained of using their Ithiaca M37s.

As for now with real weapons the Benneli is sweet! And one of my scouts who barely stood 5 feet tall could handle a 12 gauge well enough at the range. As for pump guns, the Remington 870 is good to go! Although I am cool with the 590 too.

And lets not forget the SPAS, it is cool! the only shotgun that can do semi auto and pump!

But for the T2K world, the SPAS! the cool factor, the high mag capacity and ease of use of assorted ammo.
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But for the T2K world, the SPAS! the cool factor, the high mag capacity and ease of use of assorted ammo.
Not to mention that it was used by Arnold in the Terminator movie.
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Not to mention that it was used by Arnold in the Terminator movie.
Despite its use by my boss, I will not hold that against it, its not the weapons fault it was used by an inept leftist fraud.
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Despite its use by my boss, I will not hold that against it, its not the weapons fault it was used by an inept leftist fraud.
Real life Politics aside (as they should probably be on this forum). IMO No one actor had more cool weapons in their movies than Arnold. The Long slide with laser, the M214, the Spas-12 to name just a few.
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...the M214....
I thought that was the M134?
Same prop as was used in Predator.
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Real life Politics aside (as they should probably be on this forum). IMO No one actor had more cool weapons in their movies than Arnold. The Long slide with laser, the M214, the Spas-12 to name just a few.
I did some calculus on the M214 couple of years ago and came to a resoult that IF a 200 ibs man would fire a M214 with normal .223 ammo he must stand in a somewhere 45 to 55 degrees angel to the ground. Movies have a tremendous inpact on players when they wish for weapons... Lasers, Gauss, Plasma for they specially designed T2k soliders... Sniper rifles with three barrels so they can shot with the best bullet there is for the best range there is and the weight is nothing more then for a M24.

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Despite its use by my boss, I will not hold that against it, its not the weapons fault it was used by an inept leftist fraud.
I thought Arnie is a Republican? Do you have leftist Republicans? I obviously still have much to learn about US politics.

Oh, and I'm happy to be educated via private message. I'm not looking to start any politically motivated flame wars here.
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And lets not forget the SPAS, it is cool! the only shotgun that can do semi auto and pump!

But for the T2K world, the SPAS! the cool factor, the high mag capacity and ease of use of assorted ammo.
Spas 12 was my favourite ever since I saw it in (I think?) the V1 Small Arms Guide. (If it wasn't there it must have been on Paul's site).
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You know what we really need? A belt-fed shot-machinegun!
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IIRC, Futureweapons had a piece on a steel-bodied, shotgun that I believe was fully automatic. They had it rigged up to MRAP vehicle mounts and a bomb squad-type robot.

The new Benelli that the Marine Corps is adopting looks seriously sweet but it's a little too new for the v1.0 timeline.
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You know what we really need? A belt-fed shot-machinegun!
Then Cyberpunk 2020 is the game for you! IIRC there is a 6-barelled, binary propellant, 10 gauge gatling shotgun in that game called the CLAWS. I think in the description it said that the sound of firing it included notes like tearing metal.
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I must go for :

double barreled sawed off 10gauge shotgun - 1 buck and 1 slug - I usually carry 2 of them. Low bulk, but packs a hell of alot of damage.

the ultimate player-character-slayer - sadly the last time I used it only 1 of the barrels worked - RIP GP -
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SPAS-12 and the Benelli semi-auto that Alec Baldwin used in The Getaway remake. Either one is capable of some serious damage.....
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My favorite shotgun of all time is the USAS-12. I have not shot mine yet, but it is one heavy and solid piece of gear. I had a Saiga 12 didn't like it at all, it felt cheap and was not reliable like the ak rifle as everyone thinks it is(atleast in my findings). The USAS-12's only fault as of right now is its weight and bulk, but with that it won't kick that much I bet. It looks kinda like a M16 on steriods. It can take 10 round mags or 20 round drums and some sources say it had at one time 12 round mags and 28 round drums. The military versions are selective fire with a 360 rpm rate of fire(mines not).
I do realise that a shotgun like this is really only good for limited roles and you wouldn't wanna be humping all over the place with it. I think the best shotgun to have for practical reasons or if the world went to hell is your basic pump shotgun though. They can eat all that low base crap, work dirty, and don't need lube. For pumps I like my 590, but a 870, 1300, or 37 are good pumps too.
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The military versions are selective fire with a 360 rpm rate of fire(mines not).
Yet.....
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I had to channel Civero but I finally broke the wife down. After four years of pleading, I'm getting my Mossy tomorrow!
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I had to vote Other... The Atchisson AA12 Assault Shotgun seems to be the ultimate shotgun to me. I mean take an oversized M-16which fires 12 ga. full auto from a 20 round drum! Nasty, nasty, nasty. I've been a fan ever since I saw it in 1st ed. TMP. I just worked out T2K stats for it last night...
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You had me up until M16....

I have to admit though it is a very cool weapon (inspite of it's M16 resemblance). Any shotgun capable of firing a bucketload of rounds very quickly without having to reload half way through can't be bad.
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You had me up until M16....

I have to admit though it is a very cool weapon (inspite of it's M16 resemblance). Any shotgun capable of firing a bucketload of rounds very quickly without having to reload half way through can't be bad.
It's not really an oversized M-16. The designers just used the exterior design, and most importantly, the controls to take advantage of the muscle memory that US troops already have.
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How about a 6-barrel rotary CAWS?
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I had to vote Other... The Atchisson AA12 Assault Shotgun seems to be the ultimate shotgun to me. I mean take an oversized M-16which fires 12 ga. full auto from a 20 round drum! Nasty, nasty, nasty. I've been a fan ever since I saw it in 1st ed. TMP. I just worked out T2K stats for it last night...

Doing some serious Thread Necro, but I was flipping through the you tubes, and for laughs I watched FPSRussia's channel, and saw this:

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AA12 is a really cool firearm I. I think the original Blowback version from the 70's is truly exiting though!

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/usa/atchisson-aa-12-e.html

And I wasn't meaning to reserect such an old thread but I wanted people to know that you didn't have to cycle all the rounds through a pump shotgun to unload one.

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