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09-05-2010, 05:30 PM
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Farms in T2k
Code:
Farmlife for GDW houserules
Introduction:
I was inspired by ReHerakte's Post on Op Omega, 9th of May 2004 on the RPG Host about feeding the 7th Army from Europe in Norfolk. I thought that I could try to make a roughly made FFS ruleset for farming and agriculture. So thanks to the RPG Host board I now present my take on farming mainly for T2k.
Table 1 : Techlevels and factors.
TL Leff Gen WCA LL eff
0 0.55 4:1 0.50 2 1.05
1 0.60 4:1 0.50 2 1.10
2 0.70 10:1 0.60 2.5 1.15
3 0.90 11:1 0.70 3 1.50
4 1.00 12:1 1.00 4 2.00
5 1.40 13:1 1.10 5 5.00
6 1.90 14:1 1.15 6 8.00
7 2.60 16:1 1.20 7 15.0
8 3.50 18:1 1.25 8 25.0
9 4.60 20:1 1.25 9 50.0
10 5.30 22:1 1.30 10 90.0
11 5.70 24:1 1.40 11 125
12 5.90 26:1 1.45 12 175
13 6.00 28:1 1.50 13 250
14 6.00 30:1 1.55 14 500
15 6.00 32:1 1.60 15 1000
TL - Tech Level
Leff - Output Factor/ha
Gen - Food generated per seed
WCA - Weight coefficient Animals
He - coeff for peak season extra hand
eff - efficiency factor labor/ha
ha - 2.469 acre
Table 2 : Crop and yield (Estimated TL:4)
CROP kg/ha
Corn 1470
Wheat 868
Rye 521
Barley 1035
Oat 930
Cowpeas 287
Field Beans 808
Peanuts 628
Field Pea 1077
Potatoe 7362
Sweet Potatoe 4741
Suger Beet 7856 (8% exchange to sugger)
Grassland 461
Grassfield 1654
Table 3 : Animaldata (output average per year lifetime)
Animal Meat/yr Grass/yr Fodder/yr Leather/yr Other/yr Years WT Main Note
Cheep 3.3 250 ---- 3.06 1.2 1+6 80 0+0.1 (1)
Cheep 31.8 300 ---- 17.1 ---- 1 80 0+0.1
Cow 22.7 1200 1200 5.31 2000 2+6 400 1+2 (2)
Cattle 99.5 1200 1200 19.9 ---- 2 500 1+0.2
Steer 33.2 1000 1000 5.22 ---- 2+4 500 1+0.2
Pig 40.0 ---- 500 23.2 ---- 1+5 80 1+2.5
Turkey 10.5 ---- 35 ---- ---- 0.6 15 1+1
Broiler 1.0 ---- 4 ---- ---- 0.4 1 1+0.2
Hen --- ---- 8 ---- 2.4 1.2+4 1 1+0.3 (3)
Horse 18.2 1200 1200 3.60 ---- 3+7 450 3+2
Bee --- ---- 500 ---- 40 --- --- 1+0 (4)
Fish 1.0 ---- 2 ---- ---- 1-2 --- 0+1 (5)
goat 2.3 120 ---- 2.43 0.13/100 1+6 40 0+0.3 (6)
goat 15.9 140 ---- 17.1 ---- 1 40 0+0.1
Meat/yr - Average production of meat per year
Grass/yr - Average consumption of grass per year
Fodder/yr - Average consumption of fodder per year
Leather/yr - Average production of leather per year
other/yr - Other production per year
Years - first number years to come up to production(except meat), other
number years of production in average.
WT - Wt of animal
Main - Maintence, the first number is weekly maintence the other is daily
care to get milk, feeding etc.
(1) - Cheeps that produce wool will finally produce this amount in kg fabric
(other/yr in average)
(2) - Cows milk this amount in Liters (other/yr in average), accounted for 2
offsprings.
(3) - lay this amount in kgs (other/yr in average)
(4) - Beehive produce this amount of honey a avergae year, and need 500kg
sugger beet (8% exchange) in sugger to replace the hive.
(5) - The amount of fish is set to 1 kg fish.
(6) - Goats will produce 0.13 kg wool that make fabirc nad 100 Litre milk.
Average occupation of farmer
(h/day): ha / (eff * 2) (agriculture)
(h/day): acre * 0.405 / (eff * 2) (agriculture)
Seasonvariation :
Winter : no agriculture, animal care add 50% time.
Spring : agriculture * 0.50, animal care add 50% time
Summer : agriculture * 1.75, animal care as normal
Fall : agriculture * 0.50, animal care add 50% time
PS Gonna tidy the file tomorrow after a good night sleep DS edit kato13 this is the best solution for information with spaces layouts [code]Stuff with lots of spaces [/code]
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#2
09-05-2010, 07:31 PM
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Farm Before WW3
Lets say that this farm has 26 ha large area and has with following mix of crops
26/4 ha as grassland : 461 * 3.50 kg = 9 ha Grasfield - 1654 * 3.50 kg = 57890 that would give 17 cows, 34 cattle, 2 steers They would need 57200 kg Corn (as an example) as fodder from a field of 10 ha Meat per Year : 22.7 * 17 + 99.5 * 34 + 2 * 33.2 = 3835 kg * 1.25 = 4974kg Leather per year : 17 * 5.31 + 34 * 19.9 + 2 * 5.22 = 777.31 Sqre meter Milk produced : 6/8 * 2000 * 17 * 1.25 = 31.875L Maintence or Work(field) : 21.11 / (25 *2) = 25 min average per day Maintence (beef weekly) : (17+34+2) * 1 = 53 h / 25 = 2 h 15 min per week Maintence (beef daily) : 17 * 2 + (34 + 2) * 0.2 = 41.2 h / 25 = 1h + 40 min per day All isn't just meat... Potatoes to the meat lets say that every meal counted as one meal per day has 1 kg meat and 1.5 kg potatoes. 7362 * 3.5 = 25767 per ha and we need for a balance on this 5348 *1.5 a field llarge as 0.31 ha of potaotes. This would give us a normal daily food (2L milk, 1 kg meat, 1.5 kg potaotes) 4974 meals consisting of meat 4974 meals consisting of potatoes 9948 L of fluid to food Can feed 13.6 men per year and the work per day as an average 2 h 25min And we have farmed 25.81 ha 24929 L of milk to produce cream, cheese etc
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09-05-2010, 08:04 PM
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Postwar farm TL 3
same farm as above.
26/4 = 6.5 grassland 461 * 0.9 * 6.5 = 414.9 kg 9 ha Grassfield 1654 * 0.9 * 9 = 1488.6 kg +414.9 = 16094 kg 16094 kg corn as fodder -> 9.85 ha 4 cows, 8 cattle, 2 steers meat per year : (22.7 * 4 + 99.5 *8 + 33.2 *2 ) * 0.70 = 662.74 kg leather per year : 5.31 * 4 + 19.9 * 8 + 5.22 * 2 = 190.88 Square meter milk Per year : 8000 L a normal meal per day : 0.5 kg meat, 2 kg potatoes, 2 L milk 1325 meals Potatoes : 0.26 ha this lot can feed 3.6 person per year with food and uses 17.1 h per day of maintence for the fields and uses 9.7 h per day as an average messure
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09-05-2010, 08:08 PM
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Conclussion :
Prewar farm that can be handled by 1 person can be around 75 ha and can feed 40.8 men Postwar farm can be handled by 6 persons with long days and be around 75 ha and can feed 10.8 men Note postwar is at TL 3 that is around 1800 AD Antenna
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09-05-2010, 10:23 PM
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First let me say I LOVE the work here! Its the type of detail I couldnt dream of working up.
 Secondly let me say that I guess we are all screwed because the ENTIRE island of Manhattan, all 6000HA worth turned farmland and I am only feeding 800 people!  6000 HA / 75 HA = 80 farms feeding 10 men each DO NOT want to be negative at all about all this damn hard work but, are we sure those numbers are right? I was using a fairly low number and figuring each acre could feed between 3-10 people....
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09-05-2010, 10:36 PM
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It seems to me that the numbers don't quite add up. 1.5kgs of potatoes per person per day? Ok, I'm guessing that probably includes other vegetables as well.
Also, a simple backyard vegetable patch can feed a small family quite well - there's certainly no need for acres of land. Also, several crops can be grown on the same ground throughout the year. Admittedly meat requires a bit more space than carrots and peas, but a single cow produces a LOT of useful protein beyond just beef (brains, tongue, liver, etc). Waste plant material (what's left of the peas after havesting for example) could be fed to animals further increasing the yeild from the area. Waste animal product likewise can be used to fertilise plants, again increasing yeild for fairly minimal effort.
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09-05-2010, 10:59 PM
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Oki, I used the worst case scenario when I made the Postwar farm around 1799 AD so you see that there would be hope that you might could side for a higher TL 4 to 6 depending on different areas of the world. TL 3 is preindustrialization
25 ha TL 4 1900 AD - 6.8 hours per day to produce 5.2 meals per day TL 5 1930 AD - 5.0 hours per day to produce 8.4 meals per day TL 6 1950 AD - 3.2 hours per day to produce 13 meals per day The farms is the same as before I just don't show the calculus here =) Why time changes in this Statistical formulas, explanation is that level of mechanization get higher. A machine does instead what many men did before. Why the yield gets higher, modern pesticides and newer crops from research stations. Instead of pointing on a machine or pestecide the time won and higher yield is messured with Tech Levels Antenna
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09-05-2010, 11:21 PM
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Quote:
Also then it depends on what you have on your farm Antenna Antenna
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