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Old 07-08-2009, 11:52 PM
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Oops. The quality of the information in my posts on subjects like these takes a bit of a dive when I'm at work and I can't check my books before I start typing.
Anything that initiates discussion is cool. Was fun reading "Black Madonna" again. Still has one of my favorites quotes

"However, all the valiant spirit in the world cannot make up for a lack of heavy artillery."
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That battle took place during the initial NATO drive eastward just before the nukes were first used.
It wasn't until a little later that the engineers placed the nuclear demolition charge flattening what little was left standing after the seige.

I'd forgotten about the Pact offensives of 1998. Makes a lot of sense though when you consider their offensive doctrine.
They would also probably be able to adapt a lot quicker than western armies with the sudden lack of fuel and general supply.
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That battle took place during the initial NATO drive eastward just before the nukes were first used.
It wasn't until a little later that the engineers placed the nuclear demolition charge flattening what little was left standing after the seige.
It said in the Black Madonna rumours list that several nuclear demolition charges had been set in Czestochowa but one failed to detonate. In my campaign that undetonated charge made its way into Major Filipowicz's hoard under the Jazna Gora and was eventually used by Major Po and his band of merry sociopaths to nuke WarPac Reserve Front HQ in Lublin in November of 2000.
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In late June, the Pact forces in southern Germany renewed their offensive in an attempt to seize the scattered surviving industrial sites in central Germany. Actually, the most intact parts of Germany were those areas in the south which had been under Warsaw Pact occupation, as neither side was willing to strike the area heavily. Galvanized into renewed action, NATO forces made a maximum effort to reform a coherent front, and the Pact offensive finally stalled along a line from Frankfurt to Fulda. In late August, NATO launched its own offensive from the area of Karl Marx Stadt, driving south to penetrate the Pact rear areas in Czechoslovakia. The thinly-spread Czech border guard units were quickly overwhelmed and Pact forces in central Germany began a precipitous withdrawal to Czechoslovakia, laying waste to southern Germany as they retreated.
This would go a long way to eating up the last reserves of fuel and resources available to both sides and add to the reasons why 1999 was so quiet.
Compared to the previous year, the distances involved were negligable - in 1996-97 the war raged across almost all of Europe. In 1998, offensives stalled after moving just a stones throw or two... (in comparison).
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Depending on when we see new stuff from the DC group, I might map out several canon paragraphs which describe unit movements (similar to the ones above). I plan to do something similar with the DC groups final data and it might be a useful test run. Of course the lack of complete data will make them pretty generic.

I'll look over the "Death of a Division" handout and see what I can do with that as it has really nice details.
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