The Duke of Cornwall

[Matt W]

Originally Posted by Rainbow Six

Thanks for the feedback guys.


Matt, thanks for the link. I wasn't aware that place existed. I'm at work at the moment and can't access the site (firewall tag's it a weapons site - oddly I have the same problem with Paul Mulcahy's site - can't access that at work either!),

LOL... I might have implied that Holman Gunsmiths only sell deactivated weapons. In fact, they sell literally tons of weaponry - from pistols to stuff like real, fully-working artillery (including pack howitzers and Recoilless Rifles) Not to mention AFVs like Abbots and Chieftains - so I can see why your firewall might consider it a 'weapons site' .

As to what the Duke (and Cornwall) could be exporting
1. Academic knowledge/expertise - the Camborne School of Mines is a world-class centre for teaching and research in mines, minerals and earth resources engineering.
2. Specialist mining equipment (made by Holmans of Camborne - Cornwall's largest employer for nearly 200 years)
3. Fish - Newlyn is perhaps the UK's major fishing port by value of fish landed. Mackerel and Pilchards might be a major source of income

IMHO, the big 'diplomatic effort' might be payment from the French for maintaining lighthouses and navigation beacons. If the French are getting imports from Africa etcetera, they would be wise to make sure that their ships don't crash into Cornwall (in the real world, ships get wrecked on the Cornish coast with depressing frequency)

Also - if it hasn't been nuked - GCHQ Bude might be of major interest to the French. I could see them paying a lot of money for the rights to operate it

[Rainbow Six]

Originally Posted by Matt W

LOL... I might have implied that Holman Gunsmiths only sell deactivated weapons. In fact, they sell literally tons of weaponry - from pistols to stuff like real, fully-working artillery (including pack howitzers and Recoilless Rifles) Not to mention AFVs like Abbots and Chieftains - so I can see why your firewall might consider it a 'weapons site' .

As to what the Duke (and Cornwall) could be exporting
1. Academic knowledge/expertise - the Camborne School of Mines is a world-class centre for teaching and research in mines, minerals and earth resources engineering.
2. Specialist mining equipment (made by Holmans of Camborne - Cornwall's largest employer for nearly 200 years)
3. Fish - Newlyn is perhaps the UK's major fishing port by value of fish landed. Mackerel and Pilchards might be a major source of income

IMHO, the big 'diplomatic effort' might be payment from the French for maintaining lighthouses and navigation beacons. If the French are getting imports from Africa etcetera, they would be wise to make sure that their ships don't crash into Cornwall (in the real world, ships get wrecked on the Cornish coast with depressing frequency)

Also - if it hasn't been nuked - GCHQ Bude might be of major interest to the French. I could see them paying a lot of money for the rights to operate it

Bude I had down as evacuated in 1998, with remaining personnel relocating to HMS Drake together with what equipment they could salvage. (I also have the surviving personnel from the RGHQ at Salcombe consolidating in Plymouth in early 98).

I checked out the gunssmith site at home... you're right, they have a heckuva lot more than just deactivated firearms! Looks like there's enough stuff there to equip a full armoured squadron! I'm going to assume that most if not all of the heavy duty stuff would have been requisioned by the Government earlier in the war, but I do think that it might be a good source of small arms, perhaps for the Mebyon Kernow resistance rather than the Duke. (I'm currently polishing my draft on the MK, so will try and get that posted asap - must point out that it has no connection with the real life MK - I felt that the name justified a bit of artistic licence!).

I'd planned to give the Duke control of the Cornish fishing fleets (the fishermen's families would be held as hostages onshore in order to ensure that none of the boats made for HMG's enclave at Plymouth) but wasn't sure if there would be enough fish to have an export surplus (I know here'a s lot of agricultural land in the south west but I figured fish would still be a staple part of the Cornish diet). Mines and mining is a definite goer, but beacons I had never ever considered, so thanks for that...will definitely incorporate that into the full sourcebook when it's done (with appropriate credit obviously )

Cheers

[Rainbow Six]

Evening all,

Attached is the finished draft for Mebyon Kernow, the main resistance to the Duke of Cornwall. The inspiration for Mebyon Kernow is the partisan group in Defiance...that's the theme I was looking for...It took me longer than I'd hoped to get this posted as I wasn't that happy with the draft version I had, so I had to pretty much rewrite it. One change was that in the original draft I had Mebyon Kernow already in contact with MI5 agents, but I decided to change that when I rewrote it as I thought that it would give anyone wanting to use this material more gaming options if the resistance hadn't linked up with HMG agents yet.

Anyways, document attached...hope you find it useful, and as always feedback most welcome. The next parts will be some work on Exeter, which is effectively being run by black marketeers, and the Government garrison at Plymouth, but I'm afraid they'll probably be a while in coming.

Finally, thanks to General Pain for offering to host my work on his site. You've got e mail, General...

[Rainbow Six]

Evening all,

Work continues slowly on my South West England material...attached are a couple of more completed documents, one covering HMG's somewhat beleagured Plymouth garrison and the other a group of escaped Warsaw Pact POW's turned marauder...I've put them in with the original thread rather than start a new one as they're designed to complement my piece on the Duke of Cornwall.

Whilst the Plymouth work has gone through a number of changes to get to this stage, my intention was always to have the Government garrison isolated from the main body of HMG’s forces in Southern England, with no land corridor and only occasional ships arriving from Portsmouth. I had originally intended to put a Company of Infantry who had returned from Europe (B Company, 1st Battalion, Green Howards) at Crownhill Fort, but I dropped that idea as the work evolved and beefed up the 4th Battalion, Devonshire and Dorset Regiment to a full Battalion, albeit seriously understrength (I’d originally planned to reduce them to a single Company of Home Service Force troops). Zeebrugge Troop of the Royal Marines was a relatively late addition, and effectively took the role that I’d envisaged for the Green Howards.

The idea of using Tregantle and Scraesdon Forts as FOB’s in Cornwall was originally Ramjam’s; I’m grateful to him for pointing me in that direction. I had also originally planned to have the Government controlling Saltash, but dropped that idea fairly late on as I felt that might be stretching the available manpower too thinly.

With Konev’s Wolves, I wanted to have a marauder group consisting of escaped Warsaw Pact POW’s roaming Dartmoor. At one point I considered using escaped convicts from the civilian prison on Dartmoor, but ultimately I felt that as the idea was to have them moving around and living rough, it would be better if they were Spetznaz and VDV (btw those of you with long memories may recall my first mentioning Konev’s Wolves about eight years ago!). Konev’s second in command was originally a Russian – I changed him to an East German after HorseSoldier’s post about the Felix Dzerzhinsky Regiment. I was keen on having Konev’s group on horseback as I wanted to capture the image of marauders mounted on horses emerging from the pre dawn to loot, rape, and pillage in a pseudo medieval way.

The next piece will be something on the City of Exeter; at the moment I have a lot of ideas and notes on this, but nothing approaching a finished piece. My intention is to have a “Free City of Exeter� which will introduce a third major player in the region, alongside HMG and the Duke of Cornwall, with both sides making overtures to Exeter’s leaders to try and form an alliance. Hopefully I should be able to pull something together on Exeter within the next few months.

I'm also still keen on using the civil prison at Dartmoor, which in the Twilight War timeline would still be functioning as a maximum security facility holding extremely dangerous offenders (in real life Dartmoor was reclassified as a Category C prison for less violent offenders in 2002).

So, documents attached, feedback welcome as always

Cheers

[Fusilier]

I always liked your stuff.

Any plans for Portsmouth?

[Rainbow Six]

Originally Posted by Fusilier

I always liked your stuff.

Any plans for Portsmouth?

Thanks, glad you like it.

With regards to Portsmouth, I have it intact, garrisoned by HMG (mainly RN personnel, plus some Royal Marines), and home to most of the Royal Navy's surviving warships (obviously less those at Plymouth). These warships include the type 42 Destroyer HMS York (now the Royal Navy's flagship), the submarine HMS Trafalgar, and a Dutch frigate (HNLMS De Ruyter) which brought the Dutch Royal Family to the UK when the French invaded, plus a few smaller ships and civilian vessels that were STUFT (Ships Taken Up From Trade, i.e. civilian vessels requisitioned by the Navy). I also have a US Aegis cruiser tied up alongside unable to go back to sea.

In a divergence from canon, I do not have Portsmouth being the national Capital however (I chose Oxford instead).

To be honest, it's unlikely that I'll get into Portsmouth in any greater detail. When I first started work on this project a few years ago my intention was to create a sourcebook which would cover the entire UK; unfortunately I have to be realistic these days and accept that work and other commitments mean I will never have enough time to do that, so at the moment I'm concentrating my efforts on works on the south west of England and (to a lesser extent) Scotland.

Cheers

[jester]

Isn't the Amathyst there as well? A museum shit if I recall. But, none the less a ship in decent shape as far as living quarters and such goes. Bring some of its weapons systems online which wouldn't be as hard as you think since its a WWII era ship.

Read its storey sometime its interesting.