Motoring after the Apocalypse

[ChalkLine]

Having driven a land rover 110 defender for months on end across western Australian while working, I wouldn't have one.
They will climb over anything, true.

However, they are tiny inside. We had two trucks, a cruiser and a rover, and the rover took a third of the kit. Those slot-windows in the back? They're at face height, you don't look out the windows, and I'm only 173cm tall. That means any bump, and why drive a 4x4 unless it's off road, means your skull and the roof are on close terms.

Secondly, they have a narrow wheelbase, so they get bogged like a bastard. Worse, because they're usually quite good off road, you get further in when bogging making them harder to extract.


Nah, I prefer land cruisers. However, on rocky ground for a short trip, the rover is better.

[O'Borg]

Originally Posted by Raellus

First of all, who's Jeremy Clarkeson?

Jezza in action

Originally Posted by ChalkLine

Nah, I prefer land cruisers. However, on rocky ground for a short trip, the rover is better.

There are probably more Land Rover's in Europe than LandCruisers, especially as they're standard issue for the British Army. It'll be easier to get hold of spares.

[Mohoender]

Hello people, I'll use an older type of FWD (jeep, land rover, toyota or russian). You know? the simple type that you can make run with your belt. As I already said I'll choose a diesel if possible that I can make run with no gasoline.

Hummers are nice looking but as soon as you hit a mountain range with no wide road they make me laugh like crazy. . With the most modern type of civilian FWD (whatever the brand), you'll quickly end up with a nice christmas tree that doesn't go anywhere as soon as the electronic is failing (and that will be soon). That is if it starts at all of course. If you haven't seen it, you should watch the french movie "le Salaire de la Peur", an old movie from 1953.

I used to spent a lot of time off road in Portugal. Therefore, if someone owns an UMM Alter around, I'll be glad to steal that. May be the best jeep on earth (the most uncomfortable also). I would also love to be Swedish as they have access to Pinzgauers, or German: Unimogs. If I'm stuck in France, I'll go for the old Citroën 2CV, one of its derivative or an older Peugeot: almost immortals (A good hammer and you make it work).

About the 2CV my father found one in the last house he bought, 15 years ago. It was a 1952 model that had not ran for at least 20 years, forgotten under a wood pile. It was still running with a top speed of 30 miles/h, but running, and it still does (never went to a mechanic as it was fixed by the farmer next door).

[Nowhere Man 1966]

Originally Posted by Mohoender

Hello people, I'll use an older type of FWD (jeep, land rover, toyota or russian). You know? the simple type that you can make run with your belt. As I already said I'll choose a diesel if possible that I can make run with no gasoline.

Hummers are nice looking but as soon as you hit a mountain range with no wide road they make me laugh like crazy. . With the most modern type of civilian FWD (whatever the brand), you'll quickly end up with a nice christmas tree that doesn't go anywhere as soon as the electronic is failing (and that will be soon). That is if it starts at all of course. If you haven't seen it, you should watch the french movie "le Salaire de la Peur", an old movie from 1953.

I used to spent a lot of time off road in Portugal. Therefore, if someone owns an UMM Alter around, I'll be glad to steal that. May be the best jeep on earth (the most uncomfortable also). I would also love to be Swedish as they have access to Pinzgauers, or German: Unimogs. If I'm stuck in France, I'll go for the old Citroën 2CV, one of its derivative or an older Peugeot: almost immortals (A good hammer and you make it work).

About the 2CV my father found one in the last house he bought, 15 years ago. It was a 1952 model that had not ran for at least 20 years, forgotten under a wood pile. It was still running with a top speed of 30 miles/h, but running, and it still does (never went to a mechanic as it was fixed by the farmer next door).

A quick detour, I was going to act like a loonie and say "a Smart Car" painted up like Pac-Man with the "wokka, wokka, wokka" sound effect.

I was thinking the same thing, a 2CV. Interesting car, not many here in the U.S. though. A Volkwswagen Beetle, the older ones, wouldn't be too bad, the World War II Germans used the chassis for their staff cars, IIRC, VW had one called "A Thing" that resembled a 1970's looking Kubelwagen. Stateside, well, maybe a Chevy Cavalier or its related vehicles, lots of parts, easy on fuel. Military, I guess a Hummer. I prefer wheels over tracks, easier to maintain, if you throw a track and can't fix it, you're cooked. Of course, I'd also have a geiger counter to steer clear of hot areas. Also, if you had to make your own fuel, it would take less time to fill up a 2CV or Chevy, a little more for a Hummer maybe, but a tracked vehicle would be like a bottomless pit.

If you're an old car buff a Model T (1908- 1927) or Model A (1928 - 1934?) Ford would be nice, they are flex fuel too, made that way.

Chuck M.

[copeab]

1965 convertible Mustang, black with red and silver stripes

[Earthpig]

A canoe. Rivers have always been the "highways" of a nonindustrial world. You can carry a canoe across land (portage) to the next river/lake. If you need food just fish off the canoe. It is quiet so you wont necessarily scare game away or draw attention to yourself. Hole up during the day travel at night, there you go.

[Nowhere Man 1966]

Originally Posted by Earthpig

A canoe. Rivers have always been the "highways" of a nonindustrial world. You can carry a canoe across land (portage) to the next river/lake. If you need food just fish off the canoe. It is quiet so you wont necessarily scare game away or draw attention to yourself. Hole up during the day travel at night, there you go.

Hmmm, if you want motorized form of transport, a "SEEP" (amphibious jeep) would be cool and if you can make enough fuel, an amphibious DUKW (Duck" with 6 wheels) would even be better. Would be cool to make a motorhome out of a DUKW too and it would double as a houseboat. I even saw a late 1940's era magazine that suggested turning a DUKW into an RV. There was also a civilian "Amphibicar" made in Germany too, early 1960's, one of our local radio stations had one back then too.

Chuck M.

[Nowhere Man 1966]

Originally Posted by Earthpig

A canoe. Rivers have always been the "highways" of a nonindustrial world. You can carry a canoe across land (portage) to the next river/lake. If you need food just fish off the canoe. It is quiet so you wont necessarily scare game away or draw attention to yourself. Hole up during the day travel at night, there you go.

How about an amphibious, wheeled canoe? I mean it could be like the one James Bond had in Moonraker. Well, it was actually a Venetian Gondola but the same idea applies.

Chuck M.

[Snake Eyes]

Originally Posted by Nowhere Man 1966

A Volkwswagen Beetle, the older ones, wouldn't be too bad, the World War II Germans used the chassis for their staff cars, IIRC, VW had one called "A Thing" that resembled a 1970's looking Kubelwagen.

Originally Posted by Earthpig

A canoe. Rivers have always been the "highways" of a nonindustrial world. You can carry a canoe across land (portage) to the next river/lake. If you need food just fish off the canoe. It is quiet so you wont necessarily scare game away or draw attention to yourself. Hole up during the day travel at night, there you go.

Good points. So . . . I think I'm going with a late 60's or early 70's Baja Bug conversion with a canoe (or maybe a kayak) in a roof rack.

[Targan]

Originally Posted by O'Borg

There are probably more Land Rover's in Europe than LandCruisers, especially as they're standard issue for the British Army. It'll be easier to get hold of spares.

Same in Australia. The SAS have gunned up open top Land Rovers that have MGs pointing in every direction and something big on top, usually an M2HB or Mk19.