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Old 11-25-2009, 06:00 AM
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These items i.e. precious stones/metals are really only coveted because someone likes the look of them, they're pretty and because they're in demand for such vanity purposes, they become valuable. I think for most people in the immediate aftermath, gold coins/ingots etc. may possibly retain the belief in their value but I don't think many people will see gemstones in the same manner, they'll just be pretty stones.
I think diamonds would be useful and in trade, especially in the larger organized cities and regions. In today's world, over 80% of diamonds are used not for vanity, but for industrial purposes. Cutting, abrasives, heat conductors, drilling, electronics, etc.

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I would also expect salt to become again one of the most precious stone in many places.
Salt merchants and sea salt production has been an element within my game.
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Old 11-25-2009, 06:31 AM
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I got something on bronze - it doesnt rust .
Therefore gunbarrels etc were made of this for maritime use well into the 1800s .

With the end of cheap steal , longevity in products will be valued ,and maybe these materials will be used again .
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I got something on bronze - it doesnt rust .
Therefore gunbarrels etc were made of this for maritime use well into the 1800s .

With the end of cheap steal , longevity in products will be valued ,and maybe these materials will be used again .
Bronze does not rust in the sense you mean, but rust is oxidation, and bronze will oxidize.. turning green rather than red.
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I feel in the aftermath, gold and silver will become the currency of choice IF and when a government gets situated and on the road to recovery..paper money being useful for TP maybe.. however as has been said, you can't eat it.. or the gems.. gemstone I feel would not have the perceived value gold or silver does. Mo mentioned salt, and I think he's spot on for a mineral that has a value. "worth his salt" comes to mind as it use to be the pay for I beleive it was the early Romans? Salt, while we know should be used in limited amounts, is needed for food preservation.. preserving hides to be tanned, and other necessary uses..
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"worth his salt" comes to mind as it use to be the pay for I beleive it was the early Romans?
Correct. That's where the word "salary" comes from.
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Old 11-25-2009, 06:37 AM
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I think diamonds would be useful and in trade, especially in the larger organized cities and regions. In today's world, over 80% of diamonds are used not for vanity, but for industrial purposes. Cutting, abrasives, heat conductors, drilling, electronics, etc...

Salt merchants and sea salt production has been an element within my game.
Diamonds will only have that value for as long as the electricity, the machine parts, the lubricants and the skilled workers are around to make use of them. To manufacture the items for industrial diamond use requires more infrastructure and resources than will likely be left after the war. However, for someone who has access to these things, their demand for diamonds could make it very profitable for someone to collect them for trade.

Salt becomes valuable simply because it is a necessity for life even without the idea of using it for food preservation or tanning skins etc. And this is a major part of the discussion about things like precious metals and gemstones... if someone believes they are a important, then they will have value. That value is obviously going to be based on how much of a desire there is for the item, how much of it is availalbe and how easy it is to obtain it.
People will make big efforts to recover salt because they know how important it is but will they see the importance in some glassy lumps that look like diamonds when they have no particular use for diamonds?

More importantly, despite what many women will tell you, the majority of people cannot easily tell the difference between real diamonds, diamond-cut crystal, cubic zirconium and diamontes because to really test it you need to conduct test measuring light refraction, heat, adherence of water & oil and the overall lustre. Yes the 'diamonds cut glass' trick does work but there are a number of modern materials such as synthetic sapphires and some new carbon products that will do the same.
About the only sure way for an unskilled person to rule out the others is to use the diamond like a magnifying glass, if it fails dismally at that task, it is more likely to be a real diamond than the other 'gems' mentioned.

Don't think I am rejecting the idea of someone in the post-apocalypse world wanting diamonds (or any other precious metal/stone), it's just that I really do think that for all the trouble it would be to determine whether they are real or fake let alone what they are actually worth will be more trouble than most people would care to indulge in. Without some central group who will underwrite the value of these precious metals/stones and guarantee that they're real, I don't think many people are going to want to take the chance of accepting some shiny glass stones as payment when they can take the shotgun and ten boxes of 12g shells instead.
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