Trains and steam in twilight

[chico20854]

A few images from my archive....

I believe these are improvised armored trains from the Yugoslav wars of the 90s.
I'll dig around and see if I can find some of my pictures of the Soviet ones...

[Mohoender]

Thanks Chico. Very nice. Interesting how these armored trains have not change that much in over a century.

I guess, I'll have to reduce the sophistication of these in my game.

Do you know the general use of all these wagons? I guess that the Zil-157 was used as a command post and would love to know what was arming the turrets of the fully armored wagon.

[Mohoender]

A true Twilight dream.

[Mohoender]

The first source Ihad identified it as an Indonesian armored train. In fact, it was a russian armored train, possibly from the chinese-soviet war, that was discussed on an Indonesian forum. Anyone speaking indonesian?

[Mohoender]

two from Russia, a panzer train in Poland, an freshly painted armored train from Slovenia nad a relic for the Czech.

[kato13]

Fixed a dead link from the old site in the original post.

Railways Recovery In TW2000

[Mohoender]

I love the twin rocket launcher probably taken from an helicopter. And, do you recognize the tank?

[Mohoender]

Somewhere in Geogia or Chechnia? Doesn't the T-54 armored wagon remind you of something? In addition, that picture could well be a scene from anywhere in Russia during the Twilight War.

[StainlessSteelCynic]

Originally Posted by Mohoender

I love the twin rocket launcher probably taken from an helicopter. And, do you recognize the tank?

I believe the 'tank' is an M36 Jackson tank destroyer

And I thought it would be appropriate to add the link to Britain's Strategic Steam Reserve here from another thread, so...
http://www.willys-mb.co.uk/strategic-reserve.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bi..._steam_reserve
I keep reading articles that say that the Reserve never existed in the UK, that it was a wishful thinking fantasy of some steamtrain fanatics so as a counterpoint, here's another take on the Reserve,
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread217309/pg1
http://sites.google.com/site/derelic...-steam-reserve

[chico20854]

Originally Posted by chico20854

A few images from my archive....

I believe these are improvised armored trains from the Yugoslav wars of the 90s.
I'll dig around and see if I can find some of my pictures of the Soviet ones...

Oops, these are from Chechnya.
I might still have some other Soviet ones (in addition to the ones Mo' already posted), the curse of 17,000 images in my archive...

[WallShadow]

Scranton has "Steamtown, USA", a collection of restored steam locomotives. Scranton also has an artillery shell production factory (right downtown, IIRC). Also nearby is the Tobyhanna Army Depot, and lots and lots of coal mines (hearly all defunct, however).

Strasburg, PA, near Lancaster, has 8 _operational_ steam locomotives currently and about a dozen more stored (meaning non-operational)

The East Broadtop Railway is operating 2 steam locomotives out of Orbisonia (central PA west of the Blue Ridge.

Heck, I just discovered that Dillsburg (15 miles south of Harrisburg on the way to Gettysburg) has been host to the Williams Grove Steam RailRoad (one operational steam and 2 diesels) for over 50 years! They've also been hosting a steam meet a couple of times a year--steam tractors and other goodies like "donkey engines" to provide portable power to sawmills and other industries. These steam enthusiasts will become rare treasures come the apocalypse.

Another meeting place for steam enthusiasts has been the Lawrence County Steam Fair in Portersville, PA.

[Trooper]

Russian railway troops in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsp6vEDrHZU

[WallShadow]

http://www.tvrail.com/pages/our-collection-of-equipment
Tennessee Valley Railway has operated several engines, 3 of them steam-fired, for many years, including the period covered by the Twilight War.

[Silent Hunter UK]

Of course the UK is filled with a large number of preserved steam locomotives and also an increasing number of preserved diesels, a number of these engaging in RL mainline railtours.

Although you'd have a problem with lines cut as a result of the nukes in any T2K game.

[kato13]

Swaghauler's mentioning of improvised "rail service" make me look for pics.

Here are some i found.






I expect a lot of these rail runners would pop up in areas where the military did not destroy the rail lines.

[Vespers War]

Originally Posted by WallShadow

Scranton has "Steamtown, USA", a collection of restored steam locomotives. Scranton also has an artillery shell production factory (right downtown, IIRC). Also nearby is the Tobyhanna Army Depot, and lots and lots of coal mines (hearly all defunct, however).

I was at Steamtown this past summer, and spent a few days wandering the site. The artillery shell production facility (the Scranton Army Ammunition Plant) is literally across the street from the current museum (it's in the old locomotive erecting shop from when part of Steamtown was the Dickson Manufacturing Company building locos for the DL&W). There are tunnels linking the two, though walls have been built in the tunnels to prevent people from entering the shell factory. Supposedly it has machinery to make the bodies of 105mm and 155mm artillery shells and 120mm mortar shells. AFAIK, it's not set up to fill them or to make fuses.

Unfortunately, most of what seems to be operable at Steamtown are switchers. That does make sense, since they're useful for moving other locos and cars around as working engines, but it means the collection's less useful for freight or troop haulage, since the long-haul trains are mostly cosmetic restorations or awaiting restoration. On the flip side, it does have a working roundhouse that can do the restoration work, which would be an incredibly valuable resource.

For TNE, I was working on a locomotive design sequence at COTI. It's not nearly complete, but it might make for a useful set of notes for anyone working on their own locomotives for T2K.

[Raellus]

Armored Trains are no longer a thing of the past.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ion-of-ukraine

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[swaghauler]

Originally Posted by Raellus

Armored Trains are no longer a thing of the past.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ion-of-ukraine

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Russia actually has 30K railway troops just for the War in Ukraine. I wonder what the old Pact had?

[ChalkLine]

Originally Posted by swaghauler

Russia actually has 30K railway troops just for the War in Ukraine. I wonder what the old Pact had?

There were 50 Railway Brigades in 4 Railway Corps. I can get you their locations if you like. There was also 25 Road Brigades.