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Old 02-02-2010, 06:31 PM
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Was I just struck by lighting? Or quick some pinch me, this must be a season of Dallas playing.....
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Old 02-02-2010, 06:50 PM
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Changes in opinion are always possible. How solid that change is can only be analyzed as a new body of work presents itself.
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Old 02-02-2010, 07:37 PM
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My opinion has not changed. It has always been this simple however many people seem to have simply misunderstood.

All I've ever said is don't screw with canon and then force others to use the result. Use it as a base if you think your personal work should be accepted (and used) by all.

If you do change things, say so - don't attempt to pass it off as canon. Let others decide to use, or not use based on it's merits, not on the writers personal opinion "this is the way the T2K world must be".

For myself, I feel everyone here has made valuable contributions to the game as a whole. While I'm unlikely to use Web's "Thunder Empire" material for example, I can appreciate the effort he's put in and the quality of the resultant work. Same goes for anything everyone else has done.

The DC Group and their Czech sourcebook is an example of expanding on canon - it has not replaced what we know from the published GDW materials. While I don't feel it should be declared official canon, it is most certainly following the spirit of the canon arguement, and not even the most fervent of canonites should have any qualms in using it.

One more point - Please read everything somebody posts. Don't simply skim it and expect to be able to respond appropriately. This is where misunderstandings and bad feelings come from.
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All I've ever said is don't screw with canon and then force others to use the result.
Just curious how can anyone "force" you to use anything.
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Old 02-02-2010, 08:41 PM
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Perhaps "force" isn't the right word. Mislead is probably a better way of saying it although even that isn't quite right.
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Perhaps "force" isn't the right word. Mislead is probably a better way of saying it although even that isn't quite right.
V 1.5 is simply a different universe. Same as V 3.0.

On a personal level I always follow the words of of my namesake

Absorb what is useful.
Reject what is useless.
and add what is specifically your own.

However those "what"s are different for every person so to me having more information available is much more important than how that information is codified.
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Old 02-02-2010, 08:58 PM
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This isnt the argument that I was looking for lol
I more meant that what type of things could you go back and change delete or add to real history that would lead to a better continuation of gov plan, more fallout shelters, a longer selective service draft, and mainly a more built up military for all countries.

Im thinking assassins natural disasters election results war.

My best ex. would be the oil refinery attack in red storm rising, im thinking about changing the make up of combatants before the T2K history even alters.
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This isnt the argument that I was looking for lol
I more meant that what type of things could you go back and change delete or add to real history that would lead to a better continuation of gov plan, more fallout shelters, a longer selective service draft, and mainly a more built up military for all countries.

Im thinking assassins natural disasters election results war.

My best ex. would be the oil refinery attack in red storm rising, im thinking about changing the make up of combatants before the T2K history even alters.
The DC group has graciously cracked the cover on a few of their plans and they have some pretty ingenious solutions for most if not all war parties (and I have only seen a very small fraction of the whole). Unfortunately we have to wait and see them all.

As for my game I never liked the MILGOV/CIVGOV split so after the first nukes in Europe, I had Senate pre approve deputy Secretaries for the Department Secretary position (in the event of their death) this nearly doubles the number of people in the Continuation of Government Plan and allows the departments to continue to have a leader even if the there is one death and the senate cannot convene.
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