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View Poll Results: What's your favorite T2K-era Shotgun?
Remington 870 series 13 24.07%
Mossberg 500 series 12 22.22%
Franchi SPAS-12 8 14.81%
Browning Auto-5M 3 5.56%
H&K CAW 8 14.81%
Manufrance RPS 0 0%
Other (please specify in post) 10 18.52%
None. What's the point? 0 0%
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Old 02-15-2010, 06:35 PM
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I've got my eye on a 6 shot Mossberg 500 tactical with pistol grip and CAR-style adjustable stock. Now if only I can convince my wife that it's a good investment...
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Old 02-15-2010, 07:54 PM
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I've got my eye on a 6 shot Mossberg 500 tactical with pistol grip and CAR-style adjustable stock. Now if only I can convince my wife that it's a good investment...
I envy you guys living in places with less restrictive gun laws. Here in Oz even pump action shotguns are a no-no. Ridiculous.
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I envy you guys living in places with less restrictive gun laws. Here in Oz even pump action shotguns are a no-no. Ridiculous.
Here, the NRA would have us believe that if we don't all become lifetime members (of the NRA), the Democrats in charge of [insert a) White House b) Senate c) House of Representatives d) governor's mansion e) state legislature f) two or more of the above] will follow the example set by the UK and Australia. It's a shame that the two extremes of the private firearms issue can't come to some agreement, as both sides have some things to offer and some baggage in need of shedding.

Here in the People's Republic of California, the state has a list of features that classify a weapon as an assault weapon. When the legislature realized that banning specific firearms was futile (renaming a firearm is easier than amending a law to include a re-named firearm), they devised a list of features that includes a pistol grip, a detachable magazine with a capacity greater than ten rounds, a bayonet lug, a flash suppressor, and a folding stock. Any weapon with more than one of these features is considered an "assault weapon", which is not to be confused with an assault rifle. Owning an assault weapon is a felony. There are plenty of ways around this, though. For instance, one can build an SKS with a muzzle brake and a monte carlo stock and have the option of leaving the bayonet lug intact. I really don't see the need for a bayonet lug in the civilian world. That's why God made the .357.

I'd love to go back to Arizona as a gun owner, though. Or Texas, or Nevada.

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I really don't see the need for a bayonet lug in the civilian world.
Because using a bayonet is more satisfying?
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Because using a bayonet is more satisfying?
I like how in training we were told that if your bayonet get stuck in the victim, shoot them to dislodge the bayonet. One should do that as a matter of course...
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I envy you guys living in places with less restrictive gun laws. Here in Oz even pump action shotguns are a no-no. Ridiculous.
In Texas, gun laws are very lenient compared to the rest of the country, but the mentally ill (like me, dammit) still can't get one!

The thing about "assault weapon" laws is that they are usually drafted by the anti-gun lobby. I'm pretty left-wing politically and I think the anti-gun lobby is rabid. (I also think the NRA is rabid as well, to be fair.) Given the right circumstances, I could kill someone bare-handed or with my feet, should they be declared "assault weapons?" Everything could be an "assault weapon" -- you just have to know how to use it.
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