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 I mean really look at the two countries. The are so damn simular it's uncanny. |
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03-10-2010, 04:54 AM
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Just a touch this side of insulting!
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03-10-2010, 06:58 AM
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03-10-2010, 08:21 AM
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03-10-2010, 08:42 AM
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As far as the Moari being bad asses, hey I don't know it depends who you ask. I mean being a Moari alone isn't gonna cut it alone. Otherwise Americans would be the biggest bad asses by being American alone and that isn't necessarly true.
 We beat the Brits twice, the Moari didn't. But it's relative, because it's up to the individual not their culture/race. I mean I heard Gurkas are supposed to be these super warriors and then I heard the opposite about them too. The Repubilican Guard was suppose to been top notch, but they disappeared. I'm not blasting anyone, but I think we give too much credit to groups of people rather then certain individuals. I mean like "oh my god here comes a Apache warrior he so dangerous he'll kill us all and we have no chance". But wait a minute he might be a horrible warrior. We don't know till we know even if it's to late.  Don't mean to high jack the thread. But, this is great to see peoples points of view. 
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03-10-2010, 08:49 AM
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Even as a proud American I have to admit we would not have beaten the British the first time without the French. So by an extension of your logic the French should be considered culturally "bad ass". There is so much more to who wins a conflict that the relative ranking of warrior cultures. Last edited by kato13; 03-10-2010 at 08:54 AM. |
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03-10-2010, 08:57 AM
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In 1812 our expedition to Canada got it's dick slapped down hard. And the Brits burned our capitol to the ground. Since the Brits were still fighting the Napoleonic wars they couldn't bring their full weight to bear so the war was nothing but a costly stalemate that both sides were happy to negotiate an end to. All the treaty of Ghent got us was the status quo ante bellum. Nothing changed. The brits even kept impressing our sailors into the Navy until after the defeat of Napoleon. That massive victory we got in 1814 down in New Orleans, which I admit was about as impressive as the Battle of Agincourt as far as one-sided slaughters go, happened after the peace treaty had been signed. After getting our capital burned to the ground, it's a bit like losing a football game but winning the fight in the parking lot afterwards. Thought I'd just say it before all the Brits pile on about it. Now, can we go back to posting pics of hot chicks in uniform please. A. Scott Glancy, President TCCorp, dba Pagan Publishing |
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03-10-2010, 08:18 AM
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We are a lot different compared to the Aussies and New Zealanders though. They both have similar military units like the SAS. They fight the same wars together. They both have the whole royal crown thing going on. Both flushed your gun culture down the toilet about the same time. It's like what one does so does the other. That's my point on why they are pretty much the same country. Canada is still to connected to the crown to be like the U.S.A. Hell it really is almost two seperate countries itself with the French side and the English side. |
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03-10-2010, 05:08 AM
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Maori The Maori are culturally inclined to be a warrior race. They are one of the few native peoples to have fought the British Army to a standstill during the 19th century. At one time during the Maori Wars there were around 100,000 British redcoats fighting between 5000 and 10,000 Maori warriors (and the Maori fighters were only part-time soldiers as they still had to return to their villages for the harvests). In the end the British Army only conquered the Maori by marching on their villages one by one and burning everything to the ground. Under the Treaty of Waitangi signed between the British Crown and the Maori, the Maori became full British citizens. The Maori have always been enthusiastic members of the New Zealand Armed Forces and also enthusiastic rugby players (they tend to treat rugby as a form of ritualised warfare). I am a New Zealander, although I also hold Australian citizenship. I happily regard myself as both Australian and New Zealander but many if not most New Zealanders would be horribly insulted at the suggestion that New Zealand is simply a part of Australia. Canada, Mexico and the USA all occupy the same land mass but I would never suggest that they are all the same country. New Zealand and Australia are separated by a significant stretch of water and are geographically very disimilar. I concede however that the white Australian and white New Zealand cultures are similar.
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03-10-2010, 08:16 AM
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I have known a couple Maori Muay Thai practitioners and they are the among the most intense fighters I have ever met. Quote:
I must admit I was not fully aware of the rivalry until I watched the HBO show "Flight of the Conchords (TV series)" as they seem to focus on the ribbing the countries seem to give to one another. The New Zealanders in the show seem to think of the Australians as being the more crass of the two, which is another reason I think they can be compared to Canada in their relationship. |
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