Favorite T2K-era SAW/LSW/LMG

[Matt Wiser]

HK-21; more stopping power than a M-249 with that big 7.62-mm NATO round, belt or mag fed, and is reliable.

[Targan]

I chose other. Assuming that the G11 was issued to West German forces before the Twilight War, I also assume that they would issue the LSW version of the G11, the LMG11. I have a book which contains a photo of the only prototype they built and internal diagrams. Its magazine held 200 rounds and was contained in a detachable buttstock. I've never tried using the scanner I have at home but if I figure it out I'll try to post a picture here.

[StainlessSteelCynic]

Originally Posted by Targan

I chose other. Assuming that the G11 was issued to West German forces before the Twilight War, I also assume that they would issue the LSW version of the G11, the LMG11. I have a book which contains a photo of the only prototype they built and internal diagrams. Its magazine held 200 rounds and was contained in a detachable buttstock. I've never tried using the scanner I have at home but if I figure it out I'll try to post a picture here.

You may be interested in this page from HKPro
http://www.hkpro.com/index.php?optio...types&Itemid=5

[Targan]

Originally Posted by StainlessSteelCynic

You may be interested in this page from HKPro
http://www.hkpro.com/index.php?optio...types&Itemid=5

Yeah, that's the one. I didn't have the book out when I wrote my post so I had a few things in error. 300 rounds, not 200. And maybe the picture I have is the model shown on the website and not a prototype. Still, no reason it would not have worked had they gone ahead with it.

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by Targan

Yeah, that's the one. I didn't have the book out when I wrote my post so I had a few things in error. 300 rounds, not 200. And maybe the picture I have is the model shown on the website and not a prototype. Still, no reason it would not have worked had they gone ahead with it.

Well, got to do some fixes! I've noticed that HKPro.com has re-done their site; it looks better in many places.

[waiting4something]

I have only used the big full size M249 SAW and hated it. I saw the the Ultimax in Singapore and it looked awesome how the guys could move around with it because it was so light weight. I have only read about it's A+ reviews, but never got to shoot or handle it. I went with the Stoner 63 LMG/commando. The Stoner just looks sexy and I always have had a hard-on for it ever since I was a kid after reading The Element of Surprise.

[Legbreaker]

To me an LMG is around a 5-6mm weapon which immediately rules out 7.62 types. However, if it's magazine rather than belt fed, 7.62S is acceptable.

Therefore I couldn't go with something as hard hitting as a 7.62mmN or 7.62L, much to my disappointment. Also, as this is a T2K era and not modern, it's eliminated a couple more weapons.

As an ex-machinegunner, I simply can't go past belt fed weapons - they don't require reloading anywhere near as often as magazines (ruling out RPK's, L86, and the superbly accurate Bren just to name a few).

So, to me there's only a handful of weapons which fit and so I've gone with the F89 Minimi (the Australian made ones, not Belgian, US, etc).

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by waiting4something

I have only used the big full size M249 SAW and hated it. I saw the the Ultimax in Singapore and it looked awesome how the guys could move around with it because it was so light weight. I have only read about it's A+ reviews, but never got to shoot or handle it. I went with the Stoner 63 LMG/commando. The Stoner just looks sexy and I always have had a hard-on for it ever since I was a kid after reading The Element of Surprise.

I understand they've improved it since I was in, but most troops I knew hated the SAW, and for the same reason as the M16 -- excessive dirt sensitivity.

The Marines are testing a version of the Ultimax -- they don't like the M249 either.

[Twilight2000v3MM]

Originally Posted by Matt Wiser

HK-21; more stopping power than a M-249 with that big 7.62-mm NATO round, belt or mag fed, and is reliable.

LOL... my 2 cents on those HK's is that reliability was questionable. Whne the one's I shot ran they ran GREAT but they could be very finnicky. Ive shot 3. An original 21, a 21E, and a 23. The 21E had many rounds thru it and was the more finnicky. The 21 we only put very few rounds because of its value. The ran fine.

I do love them....