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Old 04-16-2010, 01:49 AM
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Old 10-19-2010, 07:27 AM
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I've been considering "tweaking" the damage rules for an essentially v2.2 rules PBeM I'm running (which means that I have time to do the maths and this won't slow down game play) to make the system more dangerous and I wondered what people thought of the following two options as they are different to those outlined already in this thread.

Option 1: For each shot calculate the Margin of Success (MOS) by subtracting the dice roll from the target number (this is based on how the Twilight 2013 rules work). For example if the target number is 12 and the dice roll is 3 then the MOS equals 9 (12-3=9). When calculating the damage add the MOS to the damage dice roll, i.e. if your weapon has a damage rating of 2 then this particular shot does 2d6+9 damage. Now this system doesn't work properly with the armour penetration rules so that needs to be worked out. I'd probably also include a rule that a MOS 0 shot is an automatic scratch wound that just inflicts 1 point of damage, overriding the damage dice roll (assuming that the hit wasn't blocked entirely by armour).

Option 2: When rolling the d6 for damage allow them to "explode", i.e. if you roll a 6 then re-roll and add. For example if you hit with a weapon that has a damage rating of 2 and the 2d6 roll was a 6 and a 3 then the 6 would re-roll and add. If you then roll a 5 on the re-roll then the total damage would be 14 points. If the re-roll is also a 6 then you keep on rolling and adding.

I'm also considering applying both of these options together, though that could be too lethal!

What do people think of these options and can you pick any faults in them?

Thanks for any comments.

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Old 10-27-2010, 02:23 AM
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1. For the first option, I like the idea to modify the damage accordingly to the Margin of Success. But i would discard to use a "fixed" modifier to add to the damage roll. I will suggest you an idea adapted from the game "Fading Suns". Simply divide the MOS by three (round fractions down) and this will be the number of additional 6 sided dices added to the normal damage of the weapon. As an advantage, you can apply the rules regarding the armor value as usual, once you know the total number of damages dices, the armor value of the target and the penetration of the weapon. For the Outstanding Success in the "to hit" roll, you can ignore it. Taking into account the MOS will be enough.

2. For the second option, the old Star Wars (D6) system used a similar rule, but only taking into account one of the damage dices (usually in a different color). For that dice, a result of 6 meant "add and reroll". A 1 meant "substract the higger roll".

IMO, the first option is the better. The skill and the actions of the character (aiming, p.e.) will affect the MOS and, in this way, the damage roll.
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Old 11-01-2010, 08:43 AM
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WOW, you can never know what surprises you're going to find when you Google your own name

I didn't know my program is still being used today, I was sure that computer games killed traditional RPG…
I developed it about 10 years ago.
And I was working on implementing more AD&D 2E modules (like character generator and inventory management), but then Baldur's Gate came out and I dropped the development, seeing I can't compete with progress (and 3rd edition D&D was around the corner anyway).
Maybe I should repost DRD?
If you guys think I should give it a polish, I might just do that.

Waiting to hear from you.
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Old 11-01-2010, 08:57 AM
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WOW, you can never know what surprises you're going to find when you Google your own name

I didn't know my program is still being used today, I was sure that computer games killed traditional RPG…
I developed it about 10 years ago.
And I was working on implementing more AD&D 2E modules (like character generator and inventory management), but then Baldur's Gate came out and I dropped the development, seeing I can't compete with progress (and 3rd edition D&D was around the corner anyway).
Maybe I should repost DRD?
If you guys think I should give it a polish, I might just do that.

Waiting to hear from you.
Bzemer,

Wow indeed!

It's fantastic to hear from you. Indeed, sit-down RPGs are still being played. A friend of mine says that depending on how you look at it the numbers indicate there are more players than ever but the hobby is so fragmented you'll never see the day when one game will dominate the market like D&D did in its heyday. Well, I guess it still does to an extent, but you know what I mean.

For that matter, few "dead" games are really all that dead, especially on the net. Doing a quick search of active games on rpol.net, I see there are at least a few that are running with the AD&D 2nd edition rules.

At any rate, I would love to have a copy of your program. I run Play-by-Email/Play-by-post games and although I have a collection of dice by my computer, finding the space and rolling can sometimes be a real pain. I'm sure someone else with better computer skills could do the polishing!

Tony
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Doing a quick search of active games on rpol.net, I see there are at least a few that are running with the AD&D 2nd edition rules.
I'm currently playing in two 1st ed AD&D games online and one face to face.
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1. For the first option, I like the idea to modify the damage accordingly to the Margin of Success. But i would discard to use a "fixed" modifier to add to the damage roll. I will suggest you an idea adapted from the game "Fading Suns". Simply divide the MOS by three (round fractions down) and this will be the number of additional 6 sided dices added to the normal damage of the weapon. As an advantage, you can apply the rules regarding the armor value as usual, once you know the total number of damages dices, the armor value of the target and the penetration of the weapon. For the Outstanding Success in the "to hit" roll, you can ignore it. Taking into account the MOS will be enough.
Just to say that I've been using this suggestion and found that it works very well (though no PC has actually been hit yet and that will be the true test!).
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Rather than modding damage, has anyone considered modifying the healing rates? They seem quite fast, as written, and players might be more careful with their characters if they know that sucking gut wound is going to take them out of play for longer....

Thoughts?
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The V1 healing rates are much closer to reality (can take MONTHS to recover from some wounds). Obviously this is no good for an RPG without magical or hitech rapid healing....
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The V1 healing rates are much closer to reality (can take MONTHS to recover from some wounds). Obviously this is no good for an RPG without magical or hitech rapid healing....
Indeed. After I introduced an item which provided almost miraculous healing in my campaign it completely changed the whole dynamic. There was no other item like it in the entire world and sometimes instead of healing you it consumed you but it was still extensively used. And of course, he who controlled the item controlled the party. It pretty much cemented Po's bizarre leadership cult.

I'm still undecided as to whether the campaign would have been better or worse without it. The thing is, in my experience if PC deaths result in no one from the original party being alive, continuity is lost. I've seen campaigns die as a result. Its just a pity in the case of my campaign that continuity was maintained in the personage of Major Anthony Po..
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