Poll - Favorite Sniper Rifle

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by StainlessSteelCynic

The WA2000 was made as a highly accurate match rifle for competition shooting, it's far too delicate to be used in the field. It would be like taking your girlfriend to sit in the front row at a dirtbike race while she's wearing an evening gown - the slightest bit of dirt and it's ruined and so are your chances at anything else for the night

I kind of did that to a player once -- his character was meeting a female NPC his character was interested in at a hastily set-up dinner table in a slightly-damaged building. The female NPC shows up for the date in a red dinner dress (I never explained to the player where she got it, and never really thought it out either -- the NPC was CIA and I let her be a bit mysterious). The Uzi slung over her shoulder kind ruined the effect of the red dress, though.

[waiting4something]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

I kind of did that to a player once -- his character was meeting a female NPC his character was interested in at a hastily set-up dinner table in a slightly-damaged building. The female NPC shows up for the date in a red dinner dress (I never explained to the player where she got it, and never really thought it out either -- the NPC was CIA and I let her be a bit mysterious). The Uzi slung over her shoulder kind ruined the effect of the red dress, though.

Really? I think you just added to her sex appeal. That's like a bonus to her charisma roll.

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by waiting4something

Really? I think you just added to her sex appeal. That's like a bonus to her charisma roll.

Kind of like in Police Academy 2, where they're having sex and in the process of getting undressed, pulling guns out of holsters all over their bodies? I loved that bra holster with the Browning Baby in it...

[waiting4something]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

Kind of like in Police Academy 2, where they're having sex and in the process of getting undressed, pulling guns out of holsters all over their bodies? I loved that bra holster with the Browning Baby in it...

Yes, if you can get a chick like her, you just won the game of life.

[Rockwolf66]

I chose the M-40 as it's the closest I could find to my own Remington M-700P sniper rifle in .300 Winmag.

[Cpl. Kalkwarf]

Originally Posted by Rockwolf66

I chose the M-40 as it's the closest I could find to my own Remington M-700P sniper rifle in .300 Winmag.

I have two of the 700Ps in 308, weird i know,but I really like them. And its plenty good for my needs. But allass I chose the SVD, mainly because of the cool factor and that I also have one. (a Chinese NDM-86 in 7.62x54r)

[Rockwolf66]

Originally Posted by Cpl. Kalkwarf

I have two of the 700Ps in 308, weird i know,but I really like them. And its plenty good for my needs. But allass I chose the SVD, mainly because of the cool factor and that I also have one. (a Chinese NDM-86 in 7.62x54r)

Sweet,
Currently I'm between Cali and a Farm in Southern Oregon. Hopefully I can find a good job and buy that MK 14 Mod 0 clone that's been on my to get list.

As far as the SVD goes I'd love to know what the realistic effective range for one is as I write fiction for fun and I have a badguy who uses one.

It will also be helpful when i get around to writing TW2K fiction.

[dragoon500ly]

When I was stationed at Fort Knox, I had the chance to try several mags through a M-21. Nice accuracy, excellent sight, good ergonomics and while some dislike the semi-auto, I never had any problems with re-acquiring the target. The really nice thing was that the range master was a regular at Camp Perry...and he swore by the M-21 and had the silver and gold medals to back it up!

[Sanjuro]

I also voted for the WA-2000; the only sniper rifle suitable for formal wear! Interestingly enough, I've been offered 2 SSG-69s; one in .30-06" and one in .243"- all I need to do is find the cash!

[raketenjagdpanzer]

I like the M21 because of it's M14 lineage, but I like the Barrett's anti-material capability, too.

[HorseSoldier]

M21 is a good idea, but the M14 base gun was problematic -- it's not inherently overly accurate, and while you can make an M14 very accurate, it doesn't tend to stay that way under hard use. Keeping the M21s in the inventory shooting at sniping level accuracy was problematic and the main shortcoming of that system.

The SR-25/Mk 11/M110 is a better way to get the same job done.

[Panther Al]

Being honest, the choice if I have to make whilst being realistic would be the AI in 338. Its just that good, fired one a few times, and while it was a bit heavy, and kicked a little harder than a 308, its worth it for its performance.

But, just from pure S&G's sake, from the IWotW, PzB39.

Oh yeah.

Damage and Penetration to dream of, with a range that is in line with other sniper rifles. Not the best I'll grant, but...

[dragoon500ly]

Originally Posted by HorseSoldier

M21 is a good idea, but the M14 base gun was problematic -- it's not inherently overly accurate, and while you can make an M14 very accurate, it doesn't tend to stay that way under hard use. Keeping the M21s in the inventory shooting at sniping level accuracy was problematic and the main shortcoming of that system.

The SR-25/Mk 11/M110 is a better way to get the same job done.

A lot of that is the semi-auto action, keeps knocking the ole zero off. But the NCO that ran me through the M-21 always swore that if the shooter double-checked his zero after firing a sequence, then the problem could be avoided. The zero loss is the major reason why you so seldom see semi-auto sniper rifles. What a lot of people forget is that the M-21 was never really designed for sniping duties. It was designed for sharpshooter or what the service calls designated marksmen, a trained infantryman engaging targets inbetween 500-900 meters with sustained, accurate fire. In this role, the M-21 is hard to beat. Its when you compare it to dedicated sniper rifles that the M-21 falls short.

[bobcat]

Originally Posted by waiting4something

Really? I think you just added to her sex appeal. That's like a bonus to her charisma roll.

hey i was gonna say that...

of course i did once have the habit of picking up chicks at gun shows.


as for my preferred snipers rifle i gotta go with the M21. accurate, reliable, and if someone gets too close i can hit them in the face with it and not worry about hurting the weapon.
then there's the old and true maxim that "if ya can't do it with a .308 your doing it wrong"

[Ronin]

I'm a fan of the Dragunov SVD. Its not as accurate as others. But it really the first semi sniper rifle around. If used as it should be. Its a decent medium range rifle. That being said, I'm a traditionalist I really enjoy shooting the Springfield M1903A4. So I guess that would be my bolt gun choice.

[ex3313]

6.5X284 on a savage 110 frame

[Medic]

Depending on the nationality of the character, it could be quite a lot of things. However, a Finnish character would have, depending on his outfit and whether he was actually fully classified as a sniper or a support sniper either sniper rifle m/2000 (Sako TRG-42 in .338 Lapua Magnum), the heavy sniper rifle m/2000 (Barrett .50 cal in either the M82A1 or M107) or, if assigned to further down in the reserves, the sniper rifle m/85 (practically a 7.62x53mmR Mosin-Nagant action mounted on a plywood stock with a heavy free-floating bull-barrel).Of those three I've actually fired the last one (and trained other reservists in its operation) and love the old lady sincerily.

For other nationalities, I'd probably go for a bolt-action rifle like AWM or M24/M40 series. SVD could come to question as well (I have also trained with it as a reservist, though I consider it to be more of a support snipers weapon rather than a full-fledged sniper rifle). The funny thing about SVD is that is was built for use with a heavy protective vest, which makes the stock about 5cm/2" too short - a painful thing to shoot unless you have already learned about that. And the rubber 'suction cup' at the end of the original scope is also a funny one - it feels as if your eye would be just about to be sucked out of its socket when you fire the rifle.

[CDAT]

I went with the M21 as it and the M82/M107 are the only ones I have first hand experience with. I do not considered the M82 a sniper rifle, at least the one that I used was not accurate enough. Disclaimer I was not a sniper, but EOD.

[Draq]

Idk if DMRs are included, but an SKS with a low power optic.

[StainlessSteelCynic]

Originally Posted by Draq

Idk if DMRs are included, but an SKS with a low power optic.

Well technically, the SVD is a DMR (because that was the doctrine it was specifically designed for) but it's been put into the role of "sniper" so I reckon the category is wide enough to allow you a DMR rather than a pure sniping rifle.
pfloyd mentioned the Chey Tac Intervention and exhibited surprise that nobody had mentioned it earlier - I think that's probably because it wasn't available until well after the Twilight War had started. From memory it was produced in 2001, so it's far too late for 1st or 2nd ed. timelines, I do actually like it so that's a bit of a disappointment.

If I was going to go the DMR path, I think I'd give my PC the L1A1/C1A1 rifle (with the dustcover designed for mounting scopes) and use that. Couple of reasons - it's robust and a decent hitter, ammo would be relatively easy to find compared to some true sniper rifles in more exotic calibres, take the scope off and it looks like any other combat rifle rather than an obvious sniping weapon, larger magazine capacity than most true sniping rifles.

[Targan]

+1 for the SLR Fan Club.