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Old 06-13-2010, 01:29 PM
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There's at least one paddle boat operating on the Vistula, it's called the "Legenda" and runs from the Wawel Castle in Krakow on tours. I'm not sure if it's a steamboat or an oil driven one that uses the paddles for romantic reasons, it looks very clean for a steam driven vehicle.
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Old 06-13-2010, 08:07 PM
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The first couple T2K campaigns I ran were kind of cut and dried on questions of good guys versus bad guys -- NATO in the white hats, marauders (who were always Soviet deserters anyway) and WP in the black hats.

The last time I ran Kalisz/Black Madonna/Krakow, though, I tried to make things more nuanced and complicated. One way I did this was have another group of the survivors from 5th ID (one of several actually) on the same basic line of march as the PCs. This particular group was under the leadership of a talented officer who'd gone all Colonel Kurtz about things and were somewhere between marauders and "Aguirre, Wrath of God."

The PCs initially didn't really know how to react when they'd find burned out farms with 5.56mm brass and MRE wrappers on the ground and raped, robbed and murdered locals, since they had the expectation that US/NATO were the good guys. There were pragmatic dimensions to it too -- locals who wouldn't do business with them and informed on them to local Polish and even Soviet troops, heavy enemy patrolling trying to run down the 5th ID marauders, etc. It eventually built up to the PCs deciding they had to do something, if only to get the heat off their backs as well.
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Old 06-13-2010, 08:51 PM
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The first couple T2K campaigns I ran were kind of cut and dried on questions of good guys versus bad guys -- NATO in the white hats, marauders (who were always Soviet deserters anyway) and WP in the black hats.

The last time I ran Kalisz/Black Madonna/Krakow, though, I tried to make things more nuanced and complicated. One way I did this was have another group of the survivors from 5th ID (one of several actually) on the same basic line of march as the PCs. This particular group was under the leadership of a talented officer who'd gone all Colonel Kurtz about things and were somewhere between marauders and "Aguirre, Wrath of God."

The PCs initially didn't really know how to react when they'd find burned out farms with 5.56mm brass and MRE wrappers on the ground and raped, robbed and murdered locals, since they had the expectation that US/NATO were the good guys. There were pragmatic dimensions to it too -- locals who wouldn't do business with them and informed on them to local Polish and even Soviet troops, heavy enemy patrolling trying to run down the 5th ID marauders, etc. It eventually built up to the PCs deciding they had to do something, if only to get the heat off their backs as well.
I've used an encounter (not a whole adventure) like this on several player groups -- the US troops that had gone marauder vs. Soviet Spetsnaz troops that have gone over to NATO. The player group happens upon them in the middle of a firefight between each other, and I drop subtle little hints that things may not be what they seem.
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Old 06-14-2010, 04:46 AM
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Now that would be interesting. Having a group from the 5th MD that trying to survive and they happen to run into one of the probably many groups that turned to marauding after the Division was over run. We know a small group made it way to Warsaw, so not too far fetch there would be others who were working on their own.

River paddle boat on one of the major rivers in Europe or on the Mississippi would be cool.

I would find it far fetch that Spetsnaz unit would switch over to NATO. I would see them going more native, much like brass fear any Special Operational unit might if they are left in the field too long. One of the many reasons along with stress of their job why many times while they are in the field operationally they are rotated out.

One has to remember Spetsnaz like other units, the Officers still do most functions, even though it consider treasonable act, many of the troop are trained such things as map reading and how to do radio calls. So as such if a unit was left without no officers, I can see a senior NCO if they were in contact with NATO troop or behind their lines, making a deal real quick, so not have his unit executed as spies at worse (remember they have NATO uniforms and weapon with them) or made prisoners of war for the duration if they had dump the equipment.

Then again if you were playing in Alaska, Hawaii, Korea, Western Canada, or Washington/Idaho you could throw this in to spice things up with a Spetsnaz unit turned to the US/Canadian or local government where they are employed to kill/capture other Soviet troops or to train the local population. Or have one in the middle Texas...

One has to remember these troop get extra heavy dose of indoctrination from the Party and Military which is double whammy, on the regular basis that would make some of the stunts they would do Basic Training look like a puppet play that they really were.
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