T2K Today: Korea

[headquarters]

Originally Posted by Raellus

More Nork weirdness:

According to the broadcasters during today's DPRK vs. Brazil soccer match, the North Korean fans that you see during their games in SA aren't actually North Koreans at all but are paid Chinese actors. It makes sense since real NKs would probably jump at the opportunity to defect.

Also, the NK coach claims to receive in-game tactical instructions from the Dear Leader via and invisible communications device. His advice apparently wasn't so great today.

You've gotta love those wacky NKs!

It is a tragically funny story ,if it is true.
I thought NK played rather well though .

As for Dear Leaders instructions ( via NK satelite from PyongYang where he sits in his jumpsuit in a recliner swigging beer ,surrounded by pouting teenage entertainment brigade girls that massage him before the 140 inch big screen - now,what World Cup coach wouldnt benefit from that !)

I like the sobriquet that his potential successor has gotten - "Brilliant Comrade" . Makes you wonder what they call the one that drinks and whores around in Macau " Decadent comrade "? And the one that is supposedly deemed to feminine " Dodgy Comrade "?

[Abbott Shaull]

Did anyone catch the tidbit today out of North Korea..

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100616/...rea_ship_sinks

Funny how they warning the UN that something they initiated when they sunk the boat could lead to nuclear war. Talk like that sounds like they are just itching for a fight, but want the UN, US, and South Korea to appear to start the fighting. Maybe that is North knows they can't win and want China to help so maybe some of the food that China sent to feed it troop can be siphon off to feed it own population behind the front lines.

[pmulcahy11b]

I think the North Koreans want the South Koreans to pretend nothing happened -- and thereby admit that they are powerless in the face of "powerful North Korean war machine."

[Abbott Shaull]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

I think the North Koreans want the South Koreans to pretend nothing happened -- and thereby admit that they are powerless in the face of "powerful North Korean war machine."

Yeah they want the status quo kept. Much like that happen along in the inter-German Border.

You know back in the 80s Aircraft would regular go down both in and around German and Korea and nothing was much done, even when an aircraft would crash in the US. The military would just shrug it off. Then until about 2003 any time an aircraft went down there would be so called safety stand-downs to allow everyone to go over procedures and make sure everyone was doing the right thing. Since we are back to the same. Which is always amaze me to a point that air crews seem more expendable than others.

[Webstral]

Originally Posted by Abbott Shaull

Which is always amaze me to a point that air crews seem more expendable than others.

I'm not sure air crews are more expendable--just at greater risk.

Webstral

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by Abbott Shaull

Yeah they want the status quo kept. Much like that happen along in the inter-German Border.

It is rumored that there were frequent border shootouts and even dogfights in the air above the inter-German border. The former is believable to me -- it would be harder to hide a dogfight from the public.

[boogiedowndonovan]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

It is rumored that there were frequent border shootouts and even dogfights in the air above the inter-German border. The former is believable to me -- it would be harder to hide a dogfight from the public.

I remember reading about this when I was a kid, not quite the inter-German border.

http://www.nytimes.com/1984/04/21/wo...ch-border.html

[Graebarde]

Originally Posted by boogiedowndonovan

I remember reading about this when I was a kid, not quite the inter-German border.

http://www.nytimes.com/1984/04/21/wo...ch-border.html

There were always incidents which the media/general public were never aware of. While the Cobra was not hit, is probably intentional. Sides always tested each other.

cira December 1970, ROK about 60km north of Kunsan on the Yellow Sea, and more than 200km south of the DMZ. Christmas eve to be exact as I just arrived in my unit on my second tour to the Far East. People are standing looking out at the sea. When I asked what was going on I too looked out across the rice paddies and sea. In the distance I saw green tracers rising from the sea and orange rocket trails coming from the darkened sky. The ROK air force was in the process of sinking a NK gunboat about six miles out. Out of the fryingpan into the fire I found I was headed. The incident was never reported in the news that I saw. Neither was the fire fight my section was in the following August. In 1971, there were over 370 'incidents' from the DMZ south with only a few making it to the media.

[Panther Al]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

It is rumored that there were frequent border shootouts and even dogfights in the air above the inter-German border. The former is believable to me -- it would be harder to hide a dogfight from the public.

Don't know about the latter, but as to the former, the answer is Yes, there was a few shots fired in each direction. Never anything too serious, but boys with guns will be boys. By and large, the Czech border was actually pretty laid back in contrast.

[raketenjagdpanzer]

Didn't LeMay order RB-36 and RB-47 flights to do everything just shy of provoke a full-scale war? E.g., try to engage Soviet fighters and force them to shoot in defense, etc.?