Dead Games Society

[HorseSoldier]

Was it Boot Hill and Gamma World that had conversion rules in the first edition AD&D Dungeon Masters Guide? Seriously old school stuff there.

Hmm, do your pre-teen kids count in the same way? It's not like they're going to know about the Cold War even in school, like you say! Still, maybe you get triple points for indoctrinating a new generation!

Even my 18-21 ish Joes in my platoon don't really know about the Cold War, not in a way to understand what it was really like to live during it. "Soviets" are as been there/done that/beaten as "Nazis" in their world. Maybe less so, since there's no Saving Private Ryan or Band of Brothers or endless documentary footage about bullets actually flying and all.

[/Cranky Old Bastard Mode]

[helbent4]

Originally Posted by HorseSoldier

Was it Boot Hill and Gamma World that had conversion rules in the first edition AD&D Dungeon Masters Guide? Seriously old school stuff there.



Even my 18-21 ish Joes in my platoon don't really know about the Cold War, not in a way to understand what it was really like to live during it. "Soviets" are as been there/done that/beaten as "Nazis" in their world. Maybe less so, since there's no Saving Private Ryan or Band of Brothers or endless documentary footage about bullets actually flying and all.

[/Cranky Old Bastard Mode]

HS,

Those were the ones: 1st ed. Gamma World and 1st ed. Boot Hill had conversion rules in the DMG. Come to think of it, I ran PBeMs for both games and also a sit-down game for GW 1st ed within the last 10 years.

Hey, we can always educate the younger generation. I also see a certain kind of dismissiveness of the WP in T2K. I would imagine younger players see them as a defeated enemy without the at least grudging respect accorded fallen foes like the Nazis, Germans, Japanese, even Chinese (in Korea). Older players probably "get" the Cold War but as well there's a certain degree of "sure, we woulda whupped 'em, no doubt!" as part and parcel of NATO's do-or-die role and revelations that have come out after the fall of the Soviet Union.

Interestingly enough, in the timeline of T2K, the WP has done much better than NATO in practically all theatres (while fighting on several fronts at once). Enough to call into question or even shatter the belief of NATO's ultimate superiourity on the battlefield.

Tony

[Legbreaker]

Originally Posted by helbent4

I also see a certain kind of dismissiveness of the WP in T2K.

I strongly agree with that statement. Although we know IRL that the Pact may not have performed as well as feared, the presumption of the game and the timeline is that they were more than competent, and serious opponents.
Anyone writing anything for T2K not presuming this is doing themselves, and the game, a grave disservice.

[Nowhere Man 1966]

Originally Posted by HorseSoldier

Was it Boot Hill and Gamma World that had conversion rules in the first edition AD&D Dungeon Masters Guide? Seriously old school stuff there.



Even my 18-21 ish Joes in my platoon don't really know about the Cold War, not in a way to understand what it was really like to live during it. "Soviets" are as been there/done that/beaten as "Nazis" in their world. Maybe less so, since there's no Saving Private Ryan or Band of Brothers or endless documentary footage about bullets actually flying and all.

[/Cranky Old Bastard Mode]

I know what you mean, I run into that where "I was born in 1988/1991" a lot. It sure makes one feel a bit old at times. Tell you the truth to add to it, my eye doctor prescribed bifocals for me this year as well.

Chuck