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Old 11-11-2010, 09:52 AM
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Default MP Branch Structure v0.4

Hello...

Well here's v0.4. I guess pretty soon we'll have v1.0.

Operations Branch:
  • Combined Teams (CT)
  • Command & Control Teams (CC)
  • Frozen Watch Teams (FW)
  • Operations Teams (OPS)
  • Personnel & Training Teams (PT)
  • Special Purpose Teams (SP)
Combat Branch:
  • MARS Teams (M)
  • RAT Teams (RAT)
Engineering Branch:
  • Decontamination Teams (DT)
  • Engineering & Construction Teams (EC)
  • Power Generation & Reception Teams (PG)
Humanitarian Branch:
  • Agricultural Teams (AG)
  • Civil Affairs Teams (CA)
  • Health & Medical Teams (HM)
  • Law Enforcement Teams (LE)
  • Psychological Operations Teams (PO)
Recon Branch (R): This only encompasses the recon teams.

Science Branch (S): This only encompasses the science teams.

Supply & Support Branch:
  • Logistics & Supply Teams (LS)
  • Maintenance & Support Teams (MS (I think...))
Transportation Branch:
  • Aviation Teams (AV)
  • Maritime Teams (MT?)
Independent Teams:
  • Phoenix Teams (PHOENIX)
Well you take care everyone and have a good Veteran's Day. I'll try to catch up later today. And for your Veteran's Day enjoyment...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2OjBSDhzdg

EDIT: No rabbids were harmed in the making of this picture.

Thanks a bunch, and have a good Veteran's Day!

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Old 11-11-2010, 07:25 PM
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Some very minor criticism/suggestions

Change "Command & Control' to "C4I"

Change the "Law Enforcement" Team to "Emergency Services Team" (a wider role that would include Fire & Rescue training)

Change "Psychological Operations Team" to "Public Engagement Teams" or "Public Information Teams" (sounds a little less scary)

Add a (small) Legal Team somewhere. Even the Morrow Project needs something like a JAG function

Transportation Branch: Change "Maritime" to "Coastal, River & Maritime"
they could operate everything from barges to boats like the Swedish CB90 http://wn.com/swedish_cb90


Add a Meteorological Team somewhere (possibly to the Transportation Branch?)

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Old 11-11-2010, 08:39 PM
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Some very minor criticism/suggestions

Change "Command & Control' to "C4I"
Well, I would tend to believe that C4I could work. Of course if it were up to me, I would use both. Command & Control would be used in Combined Operations Groups at state level, while C4I would be improved Command & Control teams that are at divisional or regional level.

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Change the "Law Enforcement" Team to "Emergency Services Team" (a wider role that would include Fire & Rescue training)
That's a good idea. Teams with fire & rescue training could be useful in the long run. After all, you don't exactly send an ambulance to a house fire with HAAM suits and guns blazing like MARS teams. Those guys would be like the SWAT teams of the Project. And the RAT teams? Let's just say that if they have to be called in, all the gloves are off.

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Change "Psychological Operations Team" to "Public Engagement Teams" or "Public Information Teams" (sounds a little less scary)
That could also work.

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Add a (small) Legal Team somewhere. Even the Morrow Project needs something like a JAG function
I like that. Of course, to me it would probably be implemented at divisional, regional, or even national level, rather than one for every state. In fact, there could even be one at Council of Tomorrow level, as they had to find Krell somehow...

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Transportation Branch: Change "Maritime" to "Coastal, River & Maritime"
they could operate everything from barges to boats like the Swedish CB90 http://wn.com/swedish_cb90
That's interesting. Perhaps we could name them CRM teams?

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Add a Meteorological Team somewhere (possibly to the Transportation Branch?)
This is a team I tend to believe would be moderately common. There could probably be one for every COG, and there will probably be more at divisional, regional, and national level, forming a large meteorological network. After all, as the comedian Ron White once said about a hurricane (In which a guy tied himself to a tree to prove that he could withstand one without having to evacuate...):

"It's not that the wind is blowin'. It's what the wind is blowin'."

While Ron White referred to a Volvo, I tend to think of the fallout and biowar weapons that are crisscrossing the atmosphere. While the biological weapons would be less effective, the fallout would go on for a very long time. And they would have to watch that.

Well that's all I have to say. Take care and have a good night!

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Old 11-12-2010, 01:11 AM
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Some very minor criticism/suggestions

Change "Command & Control' to "C4I"

Change the "Law Enforcement" Team to "Emergency Services Team" (a wider role that would include Fire & Rescue training)
Actually there will be a separate team called Emergency Services Team that is composed of Fire and Rescue specialists. I just haven't added them in the main list yet (because i'm still working out the kind of composition they'd have).

I had originaly thought of calling the Law Enforcement Team the Emergency Services Team when i started working on it. Problem was that there was just to many specialist positions... so i have been working on others.

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Change "Psychological Operations Team" to "Public Engagement Teams" or "Public Information Teams" (sounds a little less scary)
Psychological Operations Teams aren't the same as the Army has... These guys ARE Psychological professionals. Counselors, Psychiatrists and Psychologists to help deal with survivors guilt and the like.

Public Engagement and Public Information is done by Civil Affairs teams.

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Add a (small) Legal Team somewhere. Even the Morrow Project needs something like a JAG function
Been trying to work on that... The team would definitely have a Judge, Prosecutor and Advocate positions, as well as paralegals and law specialists. At first i thought of wrapping that into Law Enforcement Teams.

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Transportation Branch: Change "Maritime" to "Coastal, River & Maritime"
they could operate everything from barges to boats like the Swedish CB90 http://wn.com/swedish_cb90
Maritime Teams becoming Coastal, River and Maritime Teams is possible... but it's a major mouthful when maritime covers both coastal and river... but i love the name.

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Add a Meteorological Team somewhere (possibly to the Transportation Branch?)
I like that... defiantly something I've been debating... because i have metrological specialists in both Aviation and Ag teams. But to create a team like this, i'd roll into it radar and satelitte operations because of the overlaps....

When i get a chance, i'll post the positions i have for each of teh teams, and specialities that i haven't put into any team...
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Old 11-12-2010, 02:30 PM
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Actually there will be a separate team called Emergency Services Team that is composed of Fire and Rescue specialists. I just haven't added them in the main list yet (because i'm still working out the kind of composition they'd have).
I had originaly thought of calling the Law Enforcement Team the Emergency Services Team when i started working on it. Problem was that there was just to many specialist positions... so i have been working on others.
Well that's also a good idea. I didn't think of that. Having the fire and rescue specialists separate from the law enforcement specialists means that if you lose one, you wouldn't lose the other. Still, it would be damaging to a developing community if they lost one of the two - but it's better than losing both.

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Psychological Operations Teams aren't the same as the Army has... These guys ARE Psychological professionals. Counselors, Psychiatrists and Psychologists to help deal with survivors guilt and the like.
Public Engagement and Public Information is done by Civil Affairs teams.
That's true. Actually, after thinking about it, I did see some positions in the Civil Affairs teams during my readings involving public information, like the media. I just didn't think of it at the time...

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Been trying to work on that... The team would definitely have a Judge, Prosecutor and Advocate positions, as well as paralegals and law specialists. At first i thought of wrapping that into Law Enforcement Teams.
If I were to make a suggestion, I would use the Law Enforcement teams as the Morrow Project's MPs (No pun intended... ), and the JAG as the judges, prosecutors, and advocates. However, I would place the JAG teams at a higher jurisdiction, such as divisional or regional, and the Law Enforcement teams at COG level.

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Maritime Teams becoming Coastal, River and Maritime Teams is possible... but it's a major mouthful when maritime covers both coastal and river... but i love the name.
That's true. Perhaps Coastal, River, and Maritime could be a sub-branch of the Transportation Branch, while still naming the teams Maritime teams. As to Aviation teams, you would probably have to do the same. Perhaps we can rename the divisions "districts" (If I remember correctly, Natehale1971 once named them districts, but changed them to divisions. But I'm not sure... ) rename the branches "divisions," and the subunits "branches?" This could become v0.5. But since if I recall correctly most of this is Natehale1971's work, I vote that he should decide, with our advisement.

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I like that... defiantly something I've been debating... because i have metrological specialists in both Aviation and Ag teams. But to create a team like this, i'd roll into it radar and satelitte operations because of the overlaps....

When i get a chance, i'll post the positions i have for each of teh teams, and specialities that i haven't put into any team...
I agree to this. But consider in terms of military hierarchy. While the Morrow Project isn't exactly a military operation, take for example the emplacement of weapons within a military unit. For example, a rifle company would be emplaced with 60mm mortars to provide fire support. But if they needed better fire support, they would turn to battalion, with 81mm mortars. And if the 81mm mortars couldn't do the job, turn to brigade or division, with 105mm, 155mm, or MLRS weapons, and so on.



And that works not only with weapons, but with just about any capability of the military. Communications, engineering, medical, everything has a better version higher in the hiearchy. That kind of military reinforcement can apply to the Morrow Project, as if the teams themselves can't tell the weather with what they have, they can turn to Meteorological teams that specialize in it, to reinforce their weather prediction methods. That is my point of view.

Well you take care. I'll probably be available today, so I might post again. But of course in my life, anything goes, but I'll try my best. Take care.

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Old 11-25-2010, 04:24 AM
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Nate,

The Specialty teams seem to be missing their "Specialty" Branch designation (per TM 1-1). It's great you actually have Specialty teams, many games (and quite a few of the adventures) seem to forget they exist!

Fire and Rescue services would be under the MARS team. MARS has become a kind of shorthand for Project Special Forces over time, but "Rescue" is literally their middle name. They'd probably be the ones to handle police training duties, too.

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Nate,

The Specialty teams seem to be missing their "Specialty" Branch designation (per TM 1-1). It's great you actually have Specialty teams, many games (and quite a few of the adventures) seem to forget they exist!

Fire and Rescue services would be under the MARS team. MARS has become a kind of shorthand for Project Special Forces over time, but "Rescue" is literally their middle name. They'd probably be the ones to handle police training duties, too.

Tony
The kin of rescue that the MARS Teams do is like the hostage rescue variety. The Emergency Services Fire & Rescue teams are a very different kind of rescue... in the navy we have fire & rescue training every six months. And the SEALs let me watch the hostage rescue training.

Having dedicated Fire & Rescue workers acting as trainers (what the project personnel are suppose to be doing... acting as advisers and teachers).
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The kin of rescue that the MARS Teams do is like the hostage rescue variety.

Having dedicated Fire & Rescue workers acting as trainers (what the project personnel are suppose to be doing... acting as advisers and teachers).
Nate,

Couldn't they do both kinds of rescue and training?

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