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Old 11-30-2010, 03:50 AM
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My players could probably not identify more that 5 weapons and if I were to introduce one to them it would be (it was the one William Fichtner used in Blackhawk down). They are not gear nuts so the weapons themselves are not an issue.
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Heh, for some reason I had the impression your players would revolt if the canon material and timeline was used! Good to hear it's not an issue with them.

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I respect that you want to keep the weapons and time line unchanged, but if I want to change to non-standard calibers and steel cartridges to reduce the value of stolen weapons and ammo, what difference does it really make. If there is a logical reason in my world for the project to do so, I will.
This isn't an issue of respect for me. That is, I always assume people have logical reasons for what they propose, and no disrespect is intended or implied.

I do think while it's understandable that the Project doesn't want anyone to use captured weapons or ammunition, it would be a logistical nightmare to adopt an oddball cartridge for this end that can't be shared with others nor can teams use common calibres.

Why not equip your teams with nunchaku and "sharks with laser beams attached to their frickin' their heads"? You can make a logical case for almost ahything!



Oh hey, what about this?



To be clear, I'd have fun with almost any game, as long as it was well-run. I think TMP makes a real connection with the canon material, but I still love the post-apoc genre in general.

Tony

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Old 11-30-2010, 12:26 PM
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I do think while it's understandable that the Project doesn't want anyone to use captured weapons or ammunition, it would be a logistical nightmare to adopt an oddball cartridge for this end that can't be shared with others nor can teams use common calibres.

Why not equip your teams with nunchaku and "sharks with laser beams attached to their frickin' their heads"? You can make a logical case for almost ahything!
And I feel if the logic is strong enough, there is no reason to hold on to canon. I have considered going with 10mm for pistols/smgs and 6.8mm for rifles. From my perspective the project is starting with a clean slate unencumbered by any prior logistical restrictions, so they can go any direction they want. Given the Project's manufacturing capabilities could produce massive numbers of these rounds.

My thought on an additional advantage of non-standard round sizes is that a loss of a cache does not greatly assist a warlord. My assumption is that 5 years out 75-90% of pre-ooops rounds might have been expended. A majority of those rounds were directed by Americans at fellow Americans. Yes a number number were probably used for hunting but I am sure a pretty large number people died from firearms.

So the project wakes and there is a huge influx of new ammo out there. My thought is that the project whose primary goal is rebuilding might not want to upset the delicate balance which might have established itself after 5 years, with massive firefights diminishing into the occasional potshots over that time. An "oddball" caliber might keep a little more control of what is done with the ammo held by the project.

That is not to say that trading a few common rounds with hunters might not make sense as well. However I had not come up with a replacement for 7.62mm yet so the whole concept might be moot.

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