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12-03-2010, 06:28 AM
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On the subject of books, can anyone recommend any on the Territorial Army pre Options for Change, in particular anything that details TA units' wartime assignments (which ones went to BAOR, which were planned to stay in the UK, etc)? I've had a quick look on amazon and waterstones websites and there seem to be a few titles available, but they're all a bit pricey and I don't want to spend thirty quid on something that's not going to cover what I'm after.
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12-05-2010, 10:43 AM
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I got a question. Why does Ireland use a different rifle then the rest of the UK? I mean Ireland is still part of the UK, so why don't they all use the same stuff? If Twilight 2000 would have happened would they still be using L1A1's instead of the the AUG? Would they go with the British flow and use a L85? Or would they get the AUG anyway? What's the deal?
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12-05-2010, 11:47 AM
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12-05-2010, 01:55 PM
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Whoah!
 Yeah, I guess they have been since 1922 or something like that. But are they really seperate or is that like one of those feel good titles to make people happy. Like if the UK says jump, does Ireland ask how high? Most the maps of the UK I saw always had Ireland in them and not until I looked it up did they have Ireland in a seperate color scheme.I mean Ireland has to still have a super close relationship still. And even if Ireland isn't down with the crown, I can't see them saying they are gonna sit back and not fight along with their union jack brothers when the UK wants them to. Sure, this was embarassing to admit I never knew this, but when I looked this up I found out I was not alone.  It's no reason to get insulted, Ireland is just a low key country. When I think of Ireland I think of happy people drinking and fighting with each other. The important lesson here is Ireland is not part of the Uk.
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12-05-2010, 03:53 PM
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Ireland is most definitely NOT part of the UK although they are a part of the Commonwealth (as are such independant nations as New Zealand, Australia, India and South Africa).
Northern Ireland on the other hand IS part of the UK, although they have been seeking independance for, well, forever....
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12-05-2010, 03:58 PM
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The Republic of Ireland hasn't been a member of the Commonwealth for over half a decade.
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12-05-2010, 04:25 PM
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As Fusilier is Canadian I'm confident he's probably not personally insulted or upset in the least when it comes to Ireland. In fact, no one seems out of sorts, so don't sweat it.  The Republic of Ireland was created by an act of armed rebellion, not some kind of slow devolution from the UK or other political process. A useful analogue might be that of the USA and the UK after the American Revolution. They share many ties but are no longer the same country. They are not a client state of the UK nor are they politically or socially dominated by them in the same way that, say, Moldova is dominated by Russia. Ireland does have strong economic ties with the UK,as well as social ones. In the 90's, Ireland enjoyed an incredible economic boom where there the Irish became some of the most wealthy per capita in the world. It was called the "Celtic Tiger", although that bubble did burst in the recent banking cataclysm. At the time of the war Ireland was still part of the Commonwealth so that is relevant to the T2K timeline. Northern Ireland, on the other hand, is still very much part of the UK in the same way that Scotland, Wales and England are, although it has more extensive home rule due to decades of political turmoil. If you are thinking of a part of Ireland that is dominated by the UK (part of the same national structure) you are probably thinking of Northern Ireland. Tony
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12-05-2010, 06:51 PM
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I'm not Irish so what I'm saying might not be completely accurate, however from what I can see, Ireland was a member of the Commonwealth up until April 1949.
There appears to be a few exceptions and so forth regarding this status though with Ireland still being able to participate in the Commonwealth Games and it's citizens born prior to 1949 able to claim British citizenship. There's a few other things as well that differentiate Ireland from every other non-commonwealth country and there appears to be a move towards Ireland rejoining the Commonwealth.
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