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Old 01-23-2011, 08:52 PM
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Yeah that is another problem is when people help themselves with their light fingers to equip their unit to higher than TO&E.
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Old 01-24-2011, 01:58 AM
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Yeah that is another problem is when people help themselves with their light fingers to equip their unit to higher than TO&E.
that depends on who's supply dump is being used. one of the enemies LMG's is worth 10 of your own and such. considering all the resources put into geting one new LMG to the front when you need it compared to stealing one from the other guy.

hence why in game i tend to live off the commies backs(not like i have that many other options without a friendly supply chain)
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Old 01-24-2011, 04:33 AM
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that depends on who's supply dump is being used. one of the enemies LMG's is worth 10 of your own and such. considering all the resources put into geting one new LMG to the front when you need it compared to stealing one from the other guy.

hence why in game i tend to live off the commies backs(not like i have that many other options without a friendly supply chain)
Favorite GIs antitank weapon was a Panzerfaust! Just like the GIs perferred the MP-40 over the M-3 SMG and liked to wear jackboots and carry the German Army's shelter half, it was better than the issue crap!
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Old 01-24-2011, 04:45 AM
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and the tenth's favorite machinegun was the MG42. (of course we were told to grab everything we could off the germans right before we took riva ridge and mount belvadere)
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Old 01-25-2011, 06:51 AM
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Favorite GIs antitank weapon was a Panzerfaust! Just like the GIs perferred the MP-40 over the M-3 SMG and liked to wear jackboots and carry the German Army's shelter half, it was better than the issue crap!
Yeah well all seemed to be in endless supply by capturing the enemy.

The Panzerfaust was more effective than what was issued.

The MP-40 was decent weapon to pick up. It still boggles my mind at time the amount of submachine guns that one could find with infantry units. Yeah I know the basic rifles were you had to pull the trigger for each shot, regardless if it was old bolt action or semi-auto load.

Then again it boggles my mind that M-3 was kept in the armories for as long as it was. Talk about gun literally pressed stamped, granted many of the submachine guns were, but they took the M-3 to the extreme. Like the US Army couldn't find a more suitable replacement until the M4 carbine.

As for the Jackboot and shelter half well it doesn't surprise me. I remember when I was in we were always required to take our sleeping bag and shelter half. Which seemed to be waste of time since we weren't ever allowed to use the shelter half, and dragging out your sleeping bag meant you had to waste time in the morning rolling the damn thing up. Especially when you had poncho and it liner to use for shelter and sleeping in. Sadly, never used the poncho as such. Much like the field jackets we were issued, but never allowed to used, but the liners use with a sweater under your bdu blouse almost kept you as warm on those cold days...lol
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Issued but not used!? What madness is that!? :O
I made a point of at least trying every issued item, even those that had developed a bad reputation. Uncovered a few gems that way such as the light weight sleeping bag (and cover) aka "horse blanket". Most didn't use them (ok, everyone except me) because they were rough and scratchy. Well, after a run through the wash to clean it, it was soft, warm, compact, and above all, light! Awesome piece of kit. Even better, it was the perfect size to fit over the heavy winter sleeping bag as an additional layer of warm goodness!

In my opinion, if it's issued, it's there to be used!
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Just think about the massive amount of TA-50 (or "kit") you were issued at every duty station. You used maybe a quarter of it, and the rest stayed home, to be taken out every so often to make sure it's still serviceable. An air mattress? What knucklehead thought of that...

The most TA-50 I used was in Korea, and the extra stuff was mainly cold-weather items.
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An air mattress?
Depends on where you are I suppose. It can be vital in the cold.
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:52 AM
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Issued but not used!? What madness is that!? :O
I made a point of at least trying ever issue item, even thought that had developed a bad reputation. Uncovered a few gems that way such as the light weight sleeping bag (and cover) aka "horse blanket". Most didn't use them (ok, everyone except me) because they were rough and scratchy. Well, after a run through the wash to clean it, it was soft, warm, compact, and above all, light! Awesome piece of kit. Even better, it was the perfect size to fit over the heavy winter sleeping bag as an additional layer of warm goodness!

In my opinion, if it's issued, it's there to be used!
Yeah well that why many of used the poncho liners to sleep in and the poncho to set up shelter to sleep under than drag out the sleeping bag and shelter half. They were both hell lot easier to pick up/take down and stow away than those two bulky things. Silly thing of it was of the large rucksacks we had those two items took up the bottom of third of everyone.
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You were issued a gas mask permanently? :O

Over here you got a basic issue. Items such as gas masks, entrenching tools, compasses, even (early on anyway) winter sleeping bags were issued on an as need, per exercise basis. It kept the crap you had to cart around to a minimum and the QM always had whatever was needed, in the quantity actually needed.

All we really kept, at least as far as field gear anyway, was uniforms, webbing, pack and about another 15-20kgs of gear.

Non-field gear issued consisted of little more than a few sets of "poly's" (polyester khaki uniforms for on base or parade ground). My Company was unique in the Army being also issued a kilt for ceremonial duties.

I've got a list of my issued items floating about somewhere. I'll post when I can find it.
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