Police forces in T2K?

[rcaf_777]

In the US I see local Sheriff being dual hated having his deputies who take care of law enforcement and he also commands the local milita, I could also see some officers of the state police apointed to key positions with in the state guard, and have the State police having one or two officers assigned to each state guard unit to monitor the people with guns

[HorseSoldier]

Originally Posted by rcaf_777

In the US I see local Sheriff being dual hated having his deputies who take care of law enforcement and he also commands the local milita, I could also see some officers of the state police apointed to key positions with in the state guard, and have the State police having one or two officers assigned to each state guard unit to monitor the people with guns

The US, at least in a lot of places, has the added issue of both conventional and asymmetric aspects of the three way civil war (and New America seems big on asymmetric stuff). In low action areas, dual hatting the local sheriff would probably work. In hotter sectors, even if not hot enough to warrant a full time presence of MilGov or CivGov regulars, it would probably be better to keep them separated. (I've always pictured CivGov favoring strong paramilitary police organizations as a counterbalance to a military their leaders don't entirely trust, but that's a different topic.)

How New America sets up law enforcement is probably an interesting question as well, come to think of it.

[Abbott Shaull]

Interesting thing in many Counties and Parishes had an elected Sheriff, by 2000 those regions that still had a person who claim the title of Sheriff. Well the it would be doubtful they were truly elected to the position, and in many cases would probably in some cases be all that is left of any type of Emergency Management and Law Enforcement left in the region. As well as being de facto head of the County level government or what is left of it.

In many communities the local Law Enforcement would make the core of the local militia like in many Cities, Towns, and Villages in Europe. With the bulk of the local militia working in the fields and stuff most of the time. While areas where military units were still in the located would only have slightly better local militia.

[Webstral]

I support Abbott's position. Where a civil government remains intact, the police most likely form the cadre/nucleus of the militia. Terminology will vary by location, but it seems likely that in many locations the police will handle routine actions, supplemented by the local militia as needed. How the police and the local militia interact with whatever military organization has nominal authority over the area also will vary from location to location.


Webstral

[Abbott Shaull]

Well if one re-read the material most of the material from Armies of the Night, many of the "communities" their militia were largely ex-police officer and gangs members. One has to remember in the US there have been laws in which only during National Emergency and Martial Law are US military personnel are allowed to intervene. Even then it is clear what a military unit can and can not do.

Of course, how the local military unit Commander view these laws will vary with mileage. There are select documented cases where the local military commander took more drastic measures than other places. In many cases taking over the local government in the name of the of the US Government whether they are doing so for their own sakes or to secure things for their respective government.

[helbent4]

Originally Posted by Abbott Shaull

One has to remember in the US there have been laws in which only during National Emergency and Martial Law are US military personnel are allowed to intervene. Even then it is clear what a military unit can and can not do.

Abbott,

One might well remember, but I think that at some point in the Twilight War the US military has completely forgotten anything resembling constitutional or legal restrictions. To be charitable, perhaps the rationale is that such "peacetime" niceties and formalities are only temporarily put aside until some kind of order and normalcy is restored.

Tony

[Rodneye]

I like the police force of France and it is the best police force of the world which is very strict in case of law.

[Abbott Shaull]

Originally Posted by helbent4

Abbott,

One might well remember, but I think that at some point in the Twilight War the US military has completely forgotten anything resembling constitutional or legal restrictions. To be charitable, perhaps the rationale is that such "peacetime" niceties and formalities are only temporarily put aside until some kind of order and normalcy is restored.

Tony

Yeah, I am sure there that the legacy as time pass gets lost as people who are in charge of units are trying to do what they think is best to save their command and in some case what left of the local population. One has to remember the units that are operating say the New England would have different out look than units say operating in Texas, Arizona, California, and Alaska.

Unit commanders far away from being on the Front would be hard press afterward to justify taking such action once the 'peace' is restored. While on the Front-lines areas it would be expected since their are enemy troops activity in the area.