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[Tegyrius]

Originally Posted by Raellus

*The U.S. Army Vehicle Guide says AFV numbers given are "to the nearest tank or assault gun" (p.2). For assault gun, I'm assuming they were referring to the LAV-75.

I think the Stingray and Sheridan might fit that category too.

- C.

[Abbott Shaull]

Originally Posted by Tegyrius

I think the Stingray and Sheridan might fit that category too.

- C.

The CEV 728s were included in these numbers too. Yet yeah, depending on the unit, if it was Light Infantry or National Guard/Reserve Infantry Division they would tend to have few APCs, IFVs, ACCVs, and CFVs. While the other Divisions would tend to have few more. Hard to pin hard numbers because every unit would of been in different shape after 1998/1999 or so and some vehicles would no longer be operational for this reason or another...

[HorseSoldier]

And similar foreign equivalents, since the same logic applies to everyone's force summaries.

The Bundeswehr's AFV strength is outlined in the NATO Vehicle Guide though it is lacking German reserves/National Guard equivalents.

[dragoon500ly]

Originally Posted by Tegyrius

I think the Stingray and Sheridan might fit that category too.

- C.

In the USAVG, there are a couple of formations that include CEV in their AFV totals. But both of these are in the US, and none of the overseas formations mention CEVs at all...

[Legbreaker]

Originally Posted by dragoon500ly

In the USAVG, there are a couple of formations that include CEV in their AFV totals. But both of these are in the US, and none of the overseas formations mention CEVs at all...

I think they're Civgov units too aren't they?

[dragoon500ly]

Originally Posted by Legbreaker

I think they're Civgov units too aren't they?

One is a CivGov Engineer Brigade; the other is MilGovs 49th AD.

[Legbreaker]

Hmm, I could have sworn I'd seen an M-728 listed somewhere in Europe...
Maybe I'm just remembering a game I played in back in the 80's...?

[HorseSoldier]

In the USAVG, there are a couple of formations that include CEV in their AFV totals. But both of these are in the US, and none of the overseas formations mention CEVs at all...

For active duty divisions and the better equipped ARNG ones, I suspect that the CEVs wouldn't be around by 2000 -- ammo would be scarce, but parts for M60 based vehicles would be problematic when almost all of your fleet of tanks and tank like vehicles are M1s and M1 derivatives. Same thing if you include the Sgt Yorks in the force mix at all (which, despite its real world failure, I always loved the twin 40mm's in game play . . .)

Lower readiness 'Guard units that have a lot of '60s (or even 48s) might be able to keep CEVs up and running better.

[dragoon500ly]

Originally Posted by HorseSoldier

For active duty divisions and the better equipped ARNG ones, I suspect that the CEVs wouldn't be around by 2000 -- ammo would be scarce, but parts for M60 based vehicles would be problematic when almost all of your fleet of tanks and tank like vehicles are M1s and M1 derivatives. Same thing if you include the Sgt Yorks in the force mix at all (which, despite its real world failure, I always loved the twin 40mm's in game play . . .)

Lower readiness 'Guard units that have a lot of '60s (or even 48s) might be able to keep CEVs up and running better.

At one point the CEVs were actually pulled from the engineer battalions and placed in depot storage for either overseas sales or disposal. When Iraq kicked off, it turned out that there really was a need for the 165mm demo gun and the ole CEV got pulled back into service.

Now that things are winding down, the remaining CEVs are, once again being sent back to depot storage, although Saudi Arabia picked up some 24 of them.

By the way....the last M-67 was finally disposed of by the USMC....that's the flame gun version of the old M-48A3, they have been sitting in storage out in California all of these years.