USMC questions

[LAW0306]

They would set up Rear areas were MCT could be taught to all new joins. MCT is 18 to 32 day depending when you went. I went Oct 92 and it sucked. we went on longer and faster road marches there than infantry school. had larger pack and crew served weapons at infantry school though.

[weswood]

I don't know how it is currently, but in the mid to late 80's the WMs (Woman Marines) didn't have the same basic training or phitness tests as male Marines.

[Brother in Arms]

The reason I ask this is:

I am trying to make a Strong female character and I am trying to work out her military career. I wanted to have her Join the USMC in 1993 and go to the Balkans but as a non combat MOS.

Her Next step is to complete her 4 years in the service. So she would get out in 1997 then have to work as a female bouncer in the L.A. club scene from 1997- 1999 or 2000 then either she re-enlists in the Corps or she gets drafted and sent to yugoslavia as a replacement. (particulary because she has prior military service)

I am hoping her second time in she is Infantry though....Infact I really want her to be a Machine gunner but I don't want that to be her official position in the sqaud just a position she assumes. I plan to have her end up in a mixed branch of services unit. Mostly army but maybe even a civillian or two.

Anyway what are your thoughts especially about Yugoslavia.

[LAW0306]

How could she be in the club sceen in 97 LA is a fire bomb. But I will help and give you a sweet character.

FIRST TERM MOS 0231 Intel Specialist
88 June-september "Boot camp" Parris Island S.C
88 october "MCT" Camp Gieger N.C
88 November-Jan 89 "Entry Course, Navy Marine Corps Intelligence Training Center (NMITC), Dam Neck, VA"
89 Feb-June 92 "2nd Intel Battalion 2nd SIRG" Camp Lejeune NC

Schools attended First Term "PFC-CPL"
SERE Bangor Maine 1989
Corporals Course 1990
Range coach 1990
LINE Instructor 1991
Jump school 1992

Deployments
1989 Just Cause "HQ Company Task Force Semper FI"
1990 November-March 1991 "2nd Intel Battalion Desert Shield/Desert Storm"
1991 November-April 1992 "26th MEU HQ Group" Bosnia

Second Term MOS 0211 Counter Intel "CPL-SGT"
July-September 1992-MAGTF CI/HUMINT Course, Navy Marine Corps Intelligence Training Center (NMITC), Dam Neck, VA
September 1992-September 1993 DLI Monteray California "Russian"
September 1993-July 1996 2nd Intel Battalion II MEF HQ Group

Schools attended 2nd term
Advanced SERE Bangor Maine 1994
Sergeants Course 1994
Primary Marksmanship Instructor 1995
Foreign Weapons Instructor 1995
Close Combat Instructor 1996
High risk Personel Course 1996

Deployments
1994 26th "MEU HQ Group" Bosnia , Restore Hope
1995/96 22nd "MEU HQ Group"

Third Term
August 96-June 00 T2K 2nd Intel Battalion II MEF HQ Group "Europe"

[Targan]

Originally Posted by LAW0306

How could she be in the club sceen in 97 LA is a fire bomb.

Brother in Arms might be creating a character for Nate's campaign. Different timeline to regular T2K.

[natehale1971]

Or he's building a character for a T2013 game.

the work i've been doing on extending the T2k V1 timeline to the start of the Sino-Soviet war to 2000 is going pretty good... been doing research on the Soviet Space Program and they had some interesting stuff on their drawing boards. Especially weapons that they hoped would counter SDI. The only thing that would have really worked on that one, is the fictional James Bond disposble GoldenEye EMP sat weapon system.

[waiting4something]

Originally Posted by LAW0306

They would set up Rear areas were MCT could be taught to all new joins. MCT is 18 to 32 day depending when you went. I went Oct 92 and it sucked. we went on longer and faster road marches there than infantry school. had larger pack and crew served weapons at infantry school though.

When I was in, MCT was no longer offered to infantry bound marines. Marines with 0300 mos's went straight to SOI. In SOI we never got trained on crew served weapons unless your mos required it. I never fired a M2HB or MK 19 my whole time in. LAV crewmen and weapons Marines stayed a few more weeks at SOI for their specialty training after passing the SOI course. Not sure how the humps of the two schools compared as I never went to MCT. I just remember everyone in SOI walking around like old men afterwards with sore and torn up feet.

[LAW0306]

Thats because I went to MCT when you were in Middle school.

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by LAW0306

Thats because I went to MCT when you were in Middle school.

Yeah, I agree, it sounds sorta like negligence -- we got more training in Army Infantry OSUT than it sounds like the Marines are getting now in SOI.

[Brother in Arms]

Hey guys

sorry for the timeline being off. I don't have access to any t2k books whatsoever. And since its been at over 10 years since I played I can't remember what happened when.

I really Appreciate LAWs imput!!!

The character is based loosely on an actual woman, so I was hoping to keep the bouncer part in there. The Time frame on tht really doesn't matter as long as its some time during the 1990's.

Also it's cool that you mentioned SERE school in Bangor. I have been there as well as to the Navy SERE school at Redington pond Maine as a civilian.

I'm really not sure what game I am making her for she might end up as part of a story because I have no actual way to use her in a game.

Brother in Arms

[waiting4something]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

Yeah, I agree, it sounds sorta like negligence -- we got more training in Army Infantry OSUT than it sounds like the Marines are getting now in SOI.

I wouldn't say that is was negligence as far as infantry Marines skipping MCT, as much as for us not getting hands on with crew served weapons was. MCT is pointless, if your whole term spent in the fleet is going to be in infantry. I think when I was in the military in general was on tight budget, the Marines are always on a tight budget anyway. Infantry will always be the first area that gets cheated when it comes to funding. Now days the military gets more funds so training might be better. We used to have to borrow the MOUT town at Camp Pendleton, today 29 Palms has their own. Things have most likely improved. More money means more bullets and less saying the phase "bang".

[Rainbow Six]

Quick question....can anyone tell me whether female Marines would have been eligible to serve as Marine Security Guards at US Embassies in a T2K timeline?

Thanks

[Legbreaker]

Given both men and women are eligible for all jobs/careers in T2K, there is no reason why not. RL may be different, but this is a game and we can do whatever we like with it.

Personally I feel embassy guards are more likely to be female than male in T2K given that men are needed on the front lines in true combat positions.