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Old 09-16-2011, 06:17 PM
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Your MP Teams are to big.

MPs are Three Man Teams. Three Teams to a Squad, Three Squads in a Division MP Co, Four Squads in a Corps MP Company.

Team Leader, Driver, Gunner.

A Corps MP Squad is three Teams plus a Squad Leader. Divisionals Three Teams but, the Squad Leader is the Team Leader for one Team.

Dogs and Dog Handlers are a Detachment from a Detachment. Not many Patrol Dogs; drug sniffing dogs are the majority, and bomb sniffing dogs that are on a near permanent loan to CID and the Secret Service.

Convoy Escorts. This is a Major tasker for MPs. My unit did 188,000 convoys in 2003 to 2004. That is not a typo.

Convoys are formed by a Corps level Traffic Control unit. This tells them routs, departure times, and gives a hazards briefing.

Units are pieced together and the Senior Officer is the Convoy Commander. The MPs will separate from the convoy and fight to protect it. While the convoy moves out of the kill zone and to a rally point.

Any of those Detachments today would move in a two truck minimum with atleast one gun truck. M998 must travel with an M1025 for example.

Fuel. No fuel trailers. There are HEMMT fuel tankers, fuel blivets, and fuel pods. Fuel pods can be strapped to a trailer. That trailer is the larger two axle type and I don't remember the nomenclature. Fuel pods work by gravity, Fuel blivets can work by gravity, usually with pumps maintained by fuel units, or another vehicle can very slowly mash down the blivet with wheels or tracks forcing fuel out of the blivet.

Those are water trailers. The "Water Buffaloes" There are desert models with a chiller that dispenses cold water if there is electricity for the chiller.

The water purified with bleach tastes like ass.
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Okay...

I couldn't find anything on the size of MP units, so I just 'guessed' how they'd be set up... The way i thought the escorts would work, would be kind of like this... Or are they spaced differently?

MP Escort Dirtbike
MP Escort Humvee
Judiciary Detachment Humvee (Advocate)
MP Escort Dirtbike

MP Escort Dirtbike
MP Escort Humvee
Judiciary Detachment Humvee (Administrator)
Judicary Detachment Humvee (Military Judge)
MP Escort Dirtbike

MP Escort Dirtbike
MP Escort Humvee
Judiciary Detachment Humvee (Advocate)
MP Escort Dirtbike
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Old 09-16-2011, 06:55 PM
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Okay...

I couldn't find anything on the size of MP units, so I just 'guessed' how they'd be set up... The way i thought the escorts would work, would be kind of like this... Or are they spaced differently?

MP Escort Dirtbike
MP Escort Humvee
Judiciary Detachment Humvee (Advocate)
MP Escort Dirtbike

MP Escort Dirtbike
MP Escort Humvee
Judiciary Detachment Humvee (Administrator)
Judicary Detachment Humvee (Military Judge)
MP Escort Dirtbike

MP Escort Dirtbike
MP Escort Humvee
Judiciary Detachment Humvee (Advocate)
MP Escort Dirtbike
MP Gun Truck (Scout) E5 100 to 500 meters ahead. M2HB

50 Meter intervals
MP Gun truck E6 Mk19 w/SAW

JAG hummer
JAG Hummer
JAG hummer

MP Gun truck E5 Mk19 W/SAW

MP don't operate dirt bikes. Last bike were Harley's from the 70's. If there were then they would be scouts out front.

Movement Control would try to set it up so that the JAG would be part of another convoy. Safety in numbers.
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MP Gun Truck (Scout) E5 100 to 500 meters ahead. M2HB

50 Meter intervals
MP Gun truck E6 Mk19 w/SAW

JAG hummer
JAG Hummer
JAG hummer

MP Gun truck E5 Mk19 W/SAW

MP don't operate dirt bikes. Last bike were Harley's from the 70's. If there were then they would be scouts out front.

Movement Control would try to set it up so that the JAG would be part of another convoy. Safety in numbers.

You mean like a Supply Convoy?

Instead of dirtbikes i was thinking of all-terrain motorcycles with sidecars. The Soviets (and from what i've been told, the Russians still do) used them extensively.

Can you tell me how MP Checkpoints would be set up? I had gone with this for them...

M998A1 HMMWV utility cargo truck w/a M105A2 1½-ton high mobility cargo trailer
SGT <>, Team Leader:
SPC <>, Combat Field Medic:
SPC <>, Radio-Telephone Operator:
SPC <>, Designated Marksman:
PFC <>, HMMWV Gunner:
PFC <>, HMMWV Driver:
SPC <name>, MP Dog Handler:
PVT <name>, Working Dog:

The Gunner and Driver positions could be rotated so the soldiers could get in out of the weather... the HMMWV would be up-armored model. The Designated Marksman position would be set up to preform overwatch. The RTO and CFM would be there for support during medical emergencies and keep them in contact with support. I'm not sure if the Working Dog would be a bomb sniffer or other kind of working dog.

I also thought of a working dog with the mortuary affairs teams... but couldn't find info on the mortuary teams that showed them using them. I found how they are organized, and didn't see them being used with the search and recovery teams.


I've been working on notes for the Mail Services... pony express type using horses and dirtbikes (or bikes with sidecars so they can carry packages like in WW2).
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Old 09-16-2011, 07:42 PM
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You mean like a Supply Convoy?

Instead of dirtbikes i was thinking of all-terrain motorcycles with sidecars. The Soviets (and from what i've been told, the Russians still do) used them extensively.

Can you tell me how MP Checkpoints would be set up? I had gone with this for them...

M998A1 HMMWV utility cargo truck w/a M105A2 1½-ton high mobility cargo trailer
SGT <>, Team Leader:
SPC <>, Combat Field Medic:
SPC <>, Radio-Telephone Operator:
SPC <>, Designated Marksman:
PFC <>, HMMWV Gunner:
PFC <>, HMMWV Driver:
SPC <name>, MP Dog Handler:
PVT <name>, Working Dog:

The Gunner and Driver positions could be rotated so the soldiers could get in out of the weather... the HMMWV would be up-armored model. The Designated Marksman position would be set up to preform overwatch. The RTO and CFM would be there for support during medical emergencies and keep them in contact with support. I'm not sure if the Working Dog would be a bomb sniffer or other kind of working dog.

I also thought of a working dog with the mortuary affairs teams... but couldn't find info on the mortuary teams that showed them using them. I found how they are organized, and didn't see them being used with the search and recovery teams.


I've been working on notes for the Mail Services... pony express type using horses and dirtbikes (or bikes with sidecars so they can carry packages like in WW2).

Oh crap. Well you don't need much do you.

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Oh crap. Well you don't need much do you.

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LOL... well, you seem to know about the subject, so I wanted to ask!

If you want to know anything about Carrier operations, i can provide alot of info...
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LOL... well, you seem to know about the subject, so I wanted to ask!

If you want to know anything about Carrier operations, i can provide alot of info...
MP

Read that as Multi Purpose more than Military Police.

Check point can be anything from a Team, to a Squad, to a Platoon, to two platoons.

Can be a Simple Traffic Control Checkpoint. One Team. Team Hummer is camouflaged off to the side when a convoy arrives one member covered by the other two gets onto the road and directs convoys onto the appropriate routes (Main Supply Route = MSR) .

to a full blown bypass on a two way MSR like a bridge that may need two platoons to direct traffic.
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