Homosexuals in the military

[natehale1971]

Originally Posted by Fusilier

Are they soldiers?

Are you NOT READING what I'm typing or something?

With the new policy these kinds of people can now get into the armed forces and MAKE IT AN ISSUE. As it was, it wouldn't be an issue. Because even HETEROSEXUAL sex acts (even nothing more than heavy kissing and petting) being done in public WHILE IN uniform is AGAINST THE UCMJ and military policy.

All it is going to take is ONE idenity Politics activist getting in and DOING THIS.

Are you not getting what I'm saying here is the FEAR of not just me, but of Openingly gay people that I know?

[Fusilier]

I'm just asking if they are doing all of this as you say, or is it only speculation on future events.

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by natehale1971

With the new policy these kinds of people can now get into the armed forces and MAKE IT AN ISSUE. As it was, it wouldn't be an issue. Because even HETEROSEXUAL sex acts (even nothing more than heavy kissing and petting) being done in public WHILE IN uniform is AGAINST THE UCMJ and military policy.

That's a big part of the point of removing the ban against being openly gay in the military, and then ensuring that the chain of command follows the new regs -- so there is no issue anymore. If you are in the military and being treated fairly and given the same opportunities that anyone else has regardless of sexual orientation, race, or religion, then you have nothing to bitch about except yourself. If you continually complain about being treated unfairly when you're not, you're just a troublemaker, and the military should show you the door, as you made the wrong career choice. If you unjustly complain so loudly about being treated unfairly so loudly that you make the military look bad, you should be treated according to the UCMJ as harshly as possible. Regardless of who you are.

But for a long time, gays in the military have voluntarily served the country while knowing if their sexual orientation ever leaked out, they could suffer anything from a beating to a court-martial, and it wouldn't matter how well they served their country. They joined anyway, because they wanted to serve their country that badly. The treatment of gays in the military to date is a point of dishonor to the entire military right up to the President. If you want to serve your country so badly you're willing to deal with such treatment, you're not a liar and you are not a pervert -- you are noble, honorable and patriotic, perhaps more than the typical soldier.

[95th Rifleman]

It's insane that in the 21st century to have a military that bars people based on sex, sexual orientation or religion. it's just bloody daft.