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Old 10-15-2011, 05:20 PM
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@ Targan - I didn't actually serve with 2 Cav, just rode in their battle taxis once in a while and I was back in W.A. for some time when they got the AUSLAVs.

@ ArmySGT and Paul - I did some more searching because the site I pilfered the "Quad 50 M113" from didn't mention anything about its ownership. I found this forum states that it's a Turkish modification http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php?topic=18699.105
And they have a far better copy of the pic I posted as well.
I've since found that "apparently" it's called the M113A2T2 ZPT (still not certain though) and it's made on the Turkish base model M113 (the M113A2T2) and here's some more pics of it: -




For some more images (with better detail) although of a model kit, try this link http://m113.blog.cz/1004/m113-a2t2-ztp

And here's another interesting M113 from the What If modelling site I posted above - apparently was an experiment with the turret from the M24 Chaffee by Taiwan. Although they linked to a Taiwanese forum for the pic, they didn't add the second pic



And because I seem to have the Google-fu today, here's another Quad 50 M113 variant - the M548 (apparently it was a field mod and had some sort of armour as well).


Also, if you can ever find a copy of "Vietnam Tracks - Armor In Battle 1945-75" there's a few M113 mods to be found between its covers. Unfortunately some of the photos don't show a lot of detail but you can find one pic with a mostly obscured M113 mounting the turret from the M8 Greyhound (page 42). The M113 is behind a Ford scout car so you can't see a whole lot of the body but you can see enough to see that it is an M113.

Vietnam Tracks
Armor In Battle 1945-75
Simon Dunston
Osprey Publishing Ltd
ISBN 0 85045 472 7
Published 1982
Reprinted 1984

An Israeli urban combat mod for the M113


To finish off, how about an IFV based on the M113 sporting a BMP3 turret - the Turkish ACV-SW. I believe the manufacturer is FNSS Savunma Sistemleri

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Old 10-15-2011, 05:32 PM
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And I found another one and boy is it ugly!
Image: A Bahraini Army M548 APC guards the main entrance to Budaiya, west of Manama, March 25, 2011. (REUTERS/Hamad I Mohammed)


Found it on this blog 'Military In the Middle East'
http://milinme.wordpress.com/
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Old 10-15-2011, 05:50 PM
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I...I...my eyes, they are burning:

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1.../5ton113-2.jpg

I dont know if this...abomination...belongs here or in the 'gun trucks' thread...

Found that gem in this old thread on militaryphotos.net: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...3-and-variants
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Old 10-15-2011, 06:20 PM
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Holy crap a T2k original there.

I wonder if that's doable with like an M2 (complete with turret) as a "cab-over"?
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Holy crap a T2k original there.

I wonder if that's doable with like an M2 (complete with turret) as a "cab-over"?
Probably not - big tonnage difference between an empty 113 hull, and an M2 hull with the turret. The M2A2 weighs 36 tons if memory serves me correctly - though a lot of that will go away (engine, tracks, etc), it'll still be north of 30 tons. The 113 weighs about 13ish tons I think - so figure 10 empty or so. I think the weight of the M2 would crush the 5ton suspension
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Here's some pics if anyone's curious of Israeli-modified M113's.

It's called the Kasman. I believe that's Hebrew for "The Magic of Music" (if not someone correct me).
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I dont know if this...abomination...belongs here or in the 'gun trucks' thread...
Bite your tongue, sir. I find that truck to be a lady of rare beauty.
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Bite your tongue, sir. I find that truck to be a lady of rare beauty.
LOL. Ok, from now on we're sending you the ugly ones, Web.
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Well, I think one can certainly say that never has a single chassis been so modified into so many variants!

You can say what you want about that there little aluminium box...but the darn thing is going to be around for another hundred years or so!!!!
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Well, I think one can certainly say that never has a single chassis been so modified into so many variants!

You can say what you want about that there little aluminium box...but the darn thing is going to be around for another hundred years or so!!!!
...and for the next hundred years, nobody will call it the "Gavin"
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