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#241
10-27-2011, 09:10 PM
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What's a "Gavin"? Cos that looked like an M113 to me.
 
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#243
10-27-2011, 09:13 PM
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(the above is a misquote from the movie "The Odd Angry Shot")
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#245
10-27-2011, 09:31 PM
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"The Odd Angry Shot". Classic Australian film. It comes across as a bit dated now, as a whole, but this scene remains timeless, I think:
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#248
10-27-2011, 09:39 PM
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#249
10-27-2011, 09:52 PM
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You have to remember that "The Odd Angry Shot" was filmed in the mid-1970s. It was shown outside Australia but you're talking about 30 years ago so it's no surprise that people haven't heard of it - back in the days of the drive-in theatre and beer cans made from steel!
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#250
10-27-2011, 09:57 PM
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#251
10-27-2011, 10:43 PM
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The 113 is a good example of the old adage KISS. Thoroughbred race horses get girls hot, but workhorses keep the business running.
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#252
10-27-2011, 10:47 PM
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It's an absolutely AMAZING movie. Relatively low budget, but very realistic depiction of Australian troops in operation (or just in the boozer).
Best scene EVER has to be the WP grenade at the bridge, but then I am a sadistic bastard sometimes.
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#253
10-28-2011, 01:08 AM
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Been years since I saw it, but I remember thinking it was very good. I don't know for sure if it ever saw screen time in the US, when I saw it in the early 90s it was a rental from a local video store that competed with the chains by stocking foreign films and obscuria.
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#254
11-02-2011, 10:01 AM
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Back to the 'ol M113...I think what's made the sucker so versatile to begin with is the fact that it is, indeed just a basic armored (okay, that's a misnomer, ALUMINUM) box with tracks...you really can just mix and match and do whatever you want with it.
Don't know if that was the original intention, but clever regardless. With all that said....think I'll stick with a Bradley. 
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#255
11-02-2011, 05:03 PM
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Which is why I advocate for the M2 Bradley be made a Univeral Chassis and take over the M113 roles. There is an IFV, AD, Evac, Cargo, SAM, platforms. Begging for a FO/Hell fire model, 120mm Mortar carrier, APC uparmored, and Command Post models.
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#256
11-02-2011, 05:53 PM
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 (hence why i'll stick to light units)
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#257
11-02-2011, 06:11 PM
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11-02-2011, 06:15 PM
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11-02-2011, 06:18 PM
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#260
11-02-2011, 06:23 PM
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"Who is the prick who pinched my pack!"
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#261
11-02-2011, 06:29 PM
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 The term "pot roast" comes to mind for any poor bastards stuck in the things if/when they get lit up...not to mention it looks pretty damn cramped in there to begin with.
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11-02-2011, 06:32 PM
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#263
11-02-2011, 07:07 PM
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Hopefully the rear doors will stay out of the line of fire. The Soviet doctrine is what, attack, attack, attack isn't it? Seems to fit in that light (and makes the crew VERY cautious about fleeing).
Couldn't a hand held designator be used instead of a mounted one? Is that perhaps the (twisted) logic behind not including a mounted one?
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If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives. Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect" Mors ante pudorem
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#265
11-03-2011, 06:33 AM
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#266
11-14-2011, 08:21 PM
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Well, have to admit, I was shocked earlier.
Was looking up some info on various airframes and was doing an in depth look at the A10. I found this site: http://www.combatreform.org/aircommandos.htm At first, not so bad. Some good points made, but a little over the top at times. In fact, it reminded me of ole Sparky himself. Read further, again, a few good points, even more out there, and then, proof! In one section he talks about a modified OA10B, loaded with high end electronics and sensors (Which defeats the whole rugged and simple thing, but..) and called it a Super Hog. Which dovetailed well with an Army Vehicle he felt served the same basic role in the Army: The M113 *Super* Gavin. Yes, *SUPER* Gavin!
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11-14-2011, 09:03 PM
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#268
11-14-2011, 10:23 PM
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The guy at that website seems really angry about a range of topics . . .
Or maybe it's all just New American agitprop.
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#270
11-15-2011, 04:59 PM
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After looking through the site, I find that I need a bottle of Bayer Extra Strength!
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