Swedish S-Tank (Striedsvagn) in T2k?

[ArmySGT.]

The S-Tank is decent as it is played to its strenghts - a defensive tank destroyer.

Play to that strength then and task reorganize them into Battalion size units that are task organized down to the Company and Platoon level for the Tank Destroyer / Assault gun mission.

If I was Sweden this would be on my keep list with a look to upgrading the gun to an Israeli or Rheinmetal 120mm (with a look to the future 135mm). The Commander station should receive a fully rotating cupola with atleast a .30 gpmg, separate commanders thermal sight, and a laser rangefinder / designator.

I would go so far as to add a coaxial 25mm or 35mm to the main gun for targets like BMPs and other IFV maximizing the Main gun load in APFDS.

The Commander could then also call very accurate defensive artillery fires to engage targets before giving his own away and outside his own main gun range.

The Armor should focus on the Leopard 2 and organize themselve that way.

How fast is the autoloader on the S-tank. Without a turret and those complications I would think the S-tank would have pretty high ROF

[Panther Al]

Originally Posted by ArmySGT.

The S-Tank is decent as it is played to its strenghts - a defensive tank destroyer.

Play to that strength then and task reorganize them into Battalion size units that are task organized down to the Company and Platoon level for the Tank Destroyer / Assault gun mission.

If I was Sweden this would be on my keep list with a look to upgrading the gun to an Israeli or Rheinmetal 120mm (with a look to the future 135mm). The Commander station should receive a fully rotating cupola with atleast a .30 gpmg, separate commanders thermal sight, and a laser rangefinder / designator.

I would go so far as to add a coaxial 25mm or 35mm to the main gun for targets like BMPs and other IFV maximizing the Main gun load in APFDS.

The Commander could then also call very accurate defensive artillery fires to engage targets before giving his own away and outside his own main gun range.

The Armor should focus on the Leopard 2 and organize themselve that way.

How fast is the autoloader on the S-tank. Without a turret and those complications I would think the S-tank would have pretty high ROF

Not bad idea's on the whole, but for one thing.


There isn't room for all that. The S Tank is very small. Fitting a 120 is a possible, but only just - with your ammo load being very small - small as in 20 rounds max. And OWS - sure. Coaxial automatic cannon? No way. Just not that big a tank alas.

[ArmySGT.]

Originally Posted by Panther Al

Not bad idea's on the whole, but for one thing.


There isn't room for all that. The S Tank is very small. Fitting a 120 is a possible, but only just - with your ammo load being very small - small as in 20 rounds max. And OWS - sure. Coaxial automatic cannon? No way. Just not that big a tank alas.

Doesn't appear to be smaller than comparable AFV just shorter.

A Coaxial weapons system doesn't necessarily have to be under armor. The M2HB mounted above the barrel on Israeli AFV is an example.

Appears that the later models did gain the Commanders Cupola with GPMG and thermal sight.

Weight 103 C: 42.5 t (46.8 short tons; 41.8 long tons)
Length 9 m (29 ft 6 in) (incl. gun)
Width 103 C: 3.80 m (12 ft 6 in)
Height 2.14 m (7 ft 0 in)
Crew 3 (Commander, gunner/driver, rear driver)[1]

[Antenna]

Originally Posted by ArmySGT.

The S-Tank is decent as it is played to its strenghts - a defensive tank destroyer.

Play to that strength then and task reorganize them into Battalion size units that are task organized down to the Company and Platoon level for the Tank Destroyer / Assault gun mission.

If I was Sweden this would be on my keep list with a look to upgrading the gun to an Israeli or Rheinmetal 120mm (with a look to the future 135mm). The Commander station should receive a fully rotating cupola with atleast a .30 gpmg, separate commanders thermal sight, and a laser rangefinder / designator.

I would go so far as to add a coaxial 25mm or 35mm to the main gun for targets like BMPs and other IFV maximizing the Main gun load in APFDS.

The Commander could then also call very accurate defensive artillery fires to engage targets before giving his own away and outside his own main gun range.

The Armor should focus on the Leopard 2 and organize themselve that way.

How fast is the autoloader on the S-tank. Without a turret and those complications I would think the S-tank would have pretty high ROF

Some facts about the S-tank...

When Sweden got a hand on couple of T-72's when the wall fell they tested both the T-72 and the S-tank.

-The S-tank could take a round from the 125mm T-72 canon and the 125mm round wouldn't penetrate the S-tanks front armor.
-The S-tank couldn't penetrate the T-72's front armor with its 105mm L7.

This concluded to an update of the S-tank to muster the rheinmetal 120mm. Then it get silent about the changes due to budget cuts in the Swedish armed forces. I belive that the update is put on the backburner and if there is remaining Strv103C's they would be updated if the situation in Scandinavia (that would be Norway, Sweden and Finland) would worsen.

Then I have the S tank on my homepages but the data doesn't account the testsfires with the T72 a decade or two ago.

/Antenna