Where is the M88A1 in the game?

[Tegyrius]

Originally Posted by Panther Al

Well, You do have the German ARV in the NATO book, so at least there is one out there.

If we're talking 2.0/2.2, the M88A1 does appear in the ACVH, too. Page 39.

Originally Posted by Medic

Well, at least there is the M88 in the 2013 rules...

Yep. And I statted out two or three others in the Czech Republic vehicle sourcebook.

- C.

[Olefin]

I will check out the Czech guide - didnt realize it was in there.

I havent looked at the 2013 game - have to do that - we played the original version and to me that is the game.

[Medic]

Originally Posted by Olefin

I will check out the Czech guide - didnt realize it was in there.

I havent looked at the 2013 game - have to do that - we played the original version and to me that is the game.

I strongly advice you do. I'm one of the 2013 buffs here while some others on the forum were actually in the team that wrote the whole shebang.

[Tegyrius]

Originally Posted by Olefin

I will check out the Czech guide - didnt realize it was in there.

The M88A1 is in the core book. Czech Your Engine (link in my sig file) has stats for the BREM-2 and a couple of AEVs.

(Disclaimer: DriveThruRPG link provided for convenience only. I get no cut of Far Future's sales.)

- C.

[Legbreaker]

ARV's could be a prime target for enemy action. Taking one out will have a massive impact on the ability of the rest of the unit it supports to maintain itself in action. By 2000 they're therefore likely to be in very short supply with most heavy haulage and recovery being carried out by ex-civilian vehicles.

[Targan]

As the years went by and I accumulated more and more books on military hardware of the 1980s/1990s I would happily include RL vehicles in the game that weren't covered in the books. It's no big deal. Pretty easy to stat them up if you have stats for a similar vehicles and you have all the RL specs available.

[Raellus]

Originally Posted by Legbreaker

ARV's could be a prime target for enemy action. Taking one out will have a massive impact on the ability of the rest of the unit it supports to maintain itself in action. By 2000 they're therefore likely to be in very short supply with most heavy haulage and recovery being carried out by ex-civilian vehicles.

For the reason given, ARV's would probably operate behind friendly lines, once the battlefield was relatively secure. I don't see them being employed under fire very often. I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty sure that's accepted tactical doctrine as far as ARVs goes.

[Panther Al]

Originally Posted by Legbreaker

ARV's could be a prime target for enemy action. Taking one out will have a massive impact on the ability of the rest of the unit it supports to maintain itself in action. By 2000 they're therefore likely to be in very short supply with most heavy haulage and recovery being carried out by ex-civilian vehicles.

While that would be perfectly true for the bulk of the war, but as they became rarer and rarer, I would imagine it would shift to less wreck, and more catch when they are seen on the battlefield. Especially in the last year or less.

[raketenjagdpanzer]

Originally Posted by Panther Al

While that would be perfectly true for the bulk of the war, but as they became rarer and rarer, I would imagine it would shift to less wreck, and more catch when they are seen on the battlefield. Especially in the last year or less.

Agreed; by 2000 (and beyond) a "Tank" = "anything with some armor we can put guns on".

[Legbreaker]

Originally Posted by Panther Al

While that would be perfectly true for the bulk of the war, but as they became rarer and rarer, I would imagine it would shift to less wreck, and more catch when they are seen on the battlefield. Especially in the last year or less.

I was thinking they'd be a prime target of opportunity for helicopters and ground attack aircraft rather than many being lost to direct action by AFVs and infantry. It's just another method of screwing with the enemies supply lines and support services, thereby bringing the fighting units to a grinding halt.

[Olefin]

Considering how many M88's there were in the US Army and USMC and how critical they were to operations I dont imagine they are all gone. And like I said people like King Julian and the "gentlemen" running Krakow would have loved to have gotten one. And just imagine how nice a mini-scenario you can do about finding one that can be "obtained" from a village or marauder group - as in "boy wouldnt it be great if we could get a vehicle that could drag that M1 tank out of the bog it got stuck in".

And considering its a rolling machine shop and crane in one package its a very nice vehicle to have on your side.

[Panther Al]

Originally Posted by Tegyrius

If we're talking 2.0/2.2, the M88A1 does appear in the ACVH, too. Page 39.



Yep. And I statted out two or three others in the Czech Republic vehicle sourcebook.

- C.

True enough.

But the Leo is *better* looking.