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Old 04-09-2012, 05:21 PM
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Webstral, the one fact we have here is that what Kato and I have presented shows that AFV's are tanks as far as the author of Kings Ransom, the Soviet Vehicle Guide and the RDF is concerned - ie. Frank Frey

now that might not hold for all the authors - but apparently it was that way for him

as for the cut and paste numbers brought up before keep in mind that the Soviet Vehicle Guide and the RDF are both by Frank Frey so you can see him cutting and pasting - and what he may be saying is that the Soviets kept their tank strength constant while the US increased - and for the US the only place they had to get tanks was either captured Soviet ones - in which case their numbers should have gone down, or the Israelis sold them to them (but I dont see them selling that many tanks) or the French sold them (again why do that) or that the US brought them from Europe along with the men (the most likely reason I can see based on the canon)

and remember he issued the RDF a long time before the Soviet Vehicle Guide and that the US vehicle guide was issued before that

So while the Soviet guide is July 1, 2000 it was released long after the RDF in real life - so the fact that its timeline is earlier in game time is not a significant - obviously Frank had the US vehicle guide and the RDF when he did the Soviet guide

and Kings Ransom puts the nail in the coffin

Frank Frey released that as well - and he referred in there directly that an AFV is a tank, not an APC - at least in his mind

so when its says that AFV's are tanks in Kings Ransom, written by the same man who wrote the RDF covering much of the same material and some of the same units then that answer is plain

To Frank Frey an AFV is a tank, not an APC - and when he said AFV in the RDF he meant tank

And Frank Frey is who wrote all of those canon modules

clearly Frank added the 6000 men, tanks and helos for a reason to the RDF - it appears his intention may have been to have a reinforcement from Europe of tanks and helos (and also APC's and howitzers) to the RDF as part of his story and that explains the increase in numbers of men and tanks

so while to many of us an AFV could be a tank or an APC to to Frank - who wrote those three canon modules that the history of the Twilight War is part of - an AFV is a tank based on the quote from Kings Ransom

The only supposition that can be drawn is that he intended to show an overall increase in US tank strength, most likely from European evacuated material that wasnt part of Omega and may have left earlier than Nov 15 - or that may have been part of Omega but where the tanks could have been bought and paid for with promises of Saudi or other Middle East oil and that is why the Germans were ok with the shipment

does anyone know how to contact Frank and ask him - he wrote the three modules and he is really the only man who can directly answer the questions

as for canon - the tanks (i.e. AFV's that Frank calls tanks) are there in Jan of 2001 after Omega - and that means US tank strength went up - unless we get something from Frank otherwise contradicting Kings Ransom, what he wrote there clearly shows he means tanks when he says AFV's

Hopefully Frank is still around and reads this forum and we can get a hold of him

Oh and I have heard the criticisms and I removed some of the posts that were too insistent by me

And I am not going anywhere - but I also I am not going to take the blame if someone decides to leave the forum over any discussion of one of my posts, nor will I sit there and take another concentrated attack on me by a bunch of guys who are clearly not commenting on what I have posted but how I have posted it - in that case I will bring that up to the moderators as a possible breech of the forum rules and let them handle it

but I also will do my best to change my posting style to avoid what happened earlier today

And if people dont like what I post - then they are free to read something else - from emails I have received asking me to stay at least some people have enjoyed my stuff and have asked me to stay and contribute - and so I will
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