USAF Europe

[raketenjagdpanzer]

That's nice but...c'mon, give us a squad or two of OV-10s! You know you want to! What's not to like?

[Panther Al]

Very reasonable, even if they all are flyable. Not enough to unbalance things, especially with the fuel shortages, but strong enough to be one of those things that helps keep the lid on when people start thinking of tossing baby nukes around again. I figure that the WarPac probably has an equivalent number of aircraft - more of the lower grade stuff as the better got the most attention, but in 2000 a flying MiG21 is pretty good.

[Legbreaker]

Originally Posted by raketenjagdpanzer

That's nice but...c'mon, give us a squad or two of OV-10s! You know you want to! What's not to like?

A nice slow target able to get shot out of the sky by a kid with a slingshot? Yep, I'm liking that a lot!
It's right up there with using ultralights as artillery spotters.

[Webstral]

That's a lot of work. Thanks for putting in the time and energy.

[Rainbow Six]

Nice job. I like the idea of the 401st TFW going to Akrotiri.

There may be the possibility of some Wings also having US Navy and Marine Corps aircraft that found themselves homeless after the carriers they were based on were sunk.

[Ironside]

Many thanks for all the hard work.

[Graebarde]

Originally Posted by raketenjagdpanzer

That's nice but...c'mon, give us a squad or two of OV-10s! You know you want to! What's not to like?

You refering to the Bronco's or the new designation of the Hawg?

[raketenjagdpanzer]

Originally Posted by Graebarde

You refering to the Bronco's or the new designation of the Hawg?

Broncos.

[Graebarde]

Originally Posted by raketenjagdpanzer

Broncos.

TY

[kalos72]

Just found this amazing post! Love it...

Question, could the aircraft be "crated" and moved via ship possibly?

I am trying to determine how or if, theses assets move back home within Operation Omega. I am thinking the expanded version versus straight canon.

[pmulcahy11b]

I think we'd at this point be down to light propeller aircraft, a smattering of small jets throughout the entire world, and yes, the hated ultralights and dirigibles. The amount of work required to field on Eagle outside of the Middle East would mean that they were almost never flown.

A don't forget gliders and especially sailplanes for reconnaissance duties.

[Olefin]

Most likely most of what is still flying would be transport aircraft of various types, with prop jobs like the Hercules being more abundant than jet powered ones.

As for attack and fighter aircraft, outside of the Middle East and France you are probably looking at A-10's and older smaller jets that were easier to maintain -especially as the F-15's, later model F-16's and F-14's really don't have other jet fighters to go up against. If there are any F-15's still being used it would be the E in an attack role and then only when it was needed for specialized bombs or missiles the A-10 couldn't carry.

I don't quite see it getting down to only ultralights - there is still enough fuel for some air operations, just not for anything large scale. And while a couple of Cessna's armed with machine guns or rocket pods doesn't sound like much, its a lot better than no air support at all.

The interesting thing is that now spare parts may actually be quite abundant - i.e. you have an awful lot of grounded jets and helicopters lying about for a relatively few active duty jets. It may be more a case of getting the parts to where you have the jets - i.e. if you have 15 grounded F-15's in Germany you can strip for parts but your three flyable planes are in the UK you have a little delivery issue.

[RN7]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

I think we'd at this point be down to light propeller aircraft, a smattering of small jets throughout the entire world, and yes, the hated ultralights and dirigibles. The amount of work required to field on Eagle outside of the Middle East would mean that they were almost never flown.

A don't forget gliders and especially sailplanes for reconnaissance duties.

Well your welcome to your own interpretation of what American airpower would be like in Europe in T2K. But there would have been hundreds if not over a thousand US military aircraft deployed to the European Theatre in T2K, and many would have survived and this list would include aircraft that remain in a flyable condition but would not be flying due to a shortage of fuel and parts. Its purely subjective but so is the assumption that NATO would have absolutely no Avgas supply by 2000, or that every airbase, storage and supply depot was destroyed or abandoned and that no aircraft would be left in a flyable condition.