49th Armoured Division

[Olefin]

We know the ships and the men made it here intact - that is canon. But disease afterward is a possibility. However keep in mind that these guys already survived the Carpathian Flu and a bunch of bio weapons in Europe - any bug that killed them with the immunities they have built up and drugs they would have been given would probably depopulate the East Coast before they started even getting sick.

[James Langham]

Originally Posted by Olefin

We know the ships and the men made it here intact - that is canon. But disease afterward is a possibility. However keep in mind that these guys already survived the Carpathian Flu and a bunch of bio weapons in Europe - any bug that killed them with the immunities they have built up and drugs they would have been given would probably depopulate the East Coast before they started even getting sick.

The obvious answer might involve the crowded conditions on the ships, these would be ideal for disease transmission.

[Olefin]

James - if there had been an uber plague that wiped out those men then it would have spread all over the East Coast from Norfolk. The fact that so few of those men ever go to any existing US units is yet another reason why HW needs to be ignored.

Simply put - Wiseman needed to come up with a way for the US to fall apart and not take Texas back - and he did it by not doing what the US would have obviously done - which is send 8-10K men to the units in OK and LA and take back Texas from the Mexican Army.

Plus keep in mind - 6000 men from Europe went to the RDF, with Kings Ransom written after the arrived - and those men didnt bring an uber plague there. Thus there was no plague.

Sorry James - wish it was different but what really happened was bad writing at GDW. Its another reason why what Chico was proposing - i.e. starting over at Going Home and this time having it make sense - sounds better every time you look at the issues with the timeline once you get to HW and Kidnapped.

[Webstral]

James, I skimmed the document and fount it very well-organized and clearly well-researched. Nice going! I hope I'll have some time to look at your work more carefully soon.

[Olefin]

By the way James - dont let my criticism of your following the HW canon in any way detract from the excellent job that you did. Overall it was a very good effort.

[Webstral]

James, I forgot to tell you that I love the work you do with photos. They add a pleasing dimension to your work.

[Olefin]

Originally Posted by Webstral

James, I forgot to tell you that I love the work you do with photos. They add a pleasing dimension to your work.

Second the motion

[Webstral]

I tend to agree that not having any of the TFO troops get sent to Oklahoma stretches credulity. Fighting men and machines will be drawn to oil like iron filings to a magnet.

Recently, we had a thread about the Mississippi Watershed and the enormous advantage it gives to the US in terms of speeding the recovery. Depending on the state of the locks around Tulsa, barge traffic from the Mississippi could reach eastern Oklahoma. Moving a thousand men and their personal gear via coastal waterways from Virginia to the mouth of the Atchafalaya, then upriver to Tulsa by barge would be more economical than almost any other means. Provided Milgov has some measure of control over the water route, it’s also not much subject to interdiction by the usual suspects. The real drawback is the time involved. A thousand troops have to be fed the whole way. Still, if the end result is greater protection for the oil, it’s a no-brainer. As an added bonus, the barges can go back downriver with tanks of petroleum. Win-win, from the Milgov point of view.