City of Angels Rewrite?

[Legbreaker]

Originally Posted by Silent Six

I felt that even for railstop kind of adventure, there wasn't enough depth. The reason that I like the modules isn't because they are a rails type of game, but because they are truly a sourcebook. Due to the location, there could be a lot more detail, but since the guiding thrust is resolution of the main plot point, there are a lot of cast in stone encounters.

I agree. Perhaps the completely different format and content of City of Angels is due mainly to it not being a GDW product, but simply authorised by them? The general ideas are ok, but like you I feel there's no usable depth.
However, given the apparent lack of useful resources in the area (such as water), I'm happy to simply ignore it and focus on other regions with more roleplaying potential. If I really need some info then I'll probably refer to the book for a little cosmetic detail and work out the foundations later if necessary.

[Webstral]

I won't speak to City of Angels, since I know less about L.A. than many here. Being a Bay Area type now, I'm much more interested in what is happening here in 2000. I just don't know how much adventuring potential there is. The Oakland-Sacramento axis seems as firmly in the grip of Milgov as anyplace in the country is. The region possesses as much of what is required to survive and rebuild as anyplace in the US if one goes a bit further afield to include minerals from the Sierra Nevada and petroleum from Bakersfield and the Central Valley under Milgov control.

Offhand, the best adventure ideas I can come up with are the location of materials to support reconstruction. For instance, the hydroelectric plants along the rim of the Sierra Nevada would change the water situation and the power situation completely. Equipment and expertise would be worth their weight in something even more valuable than gold. I suppose strategic minerals for things like machine tools also would be extremely valuable. There would be marauders to be tracked down and local warlords to be overcome, but these things are not especially inspiring.

I suppose one could go a very different route than normal. Inside the Sixth US Army AO would be a number of players jockeying for control of what would be a local superpower once the recovery got underway. PCs might find themselves called upon to take sides or perform special missions. I'll have to think on this.

[Olefin]

"The gangs of LA are a just unbelievable.

Brighton River Reavers (They like motorboats)
Resida Banditos (There from Resida)
Seal Beach Girls (There suspicous of men)
Sunset Beach Boys (They like getting sun tans and surfing)
The Flying Circus (They screach in a secret language; a falsetto London Cockney accent)
The Hollywooders (They do everything with style)
The L.A. Raiders
The Masked Riders (They wear masks and are mysterious)
The Rad Rats (Their scavengers)"

I know - where are the obvious gangs - i.e. the Cripps and the Bloods, both of whom were very much in existence when the module was written? I do like the LA Raiders - if they are a gang of devoted LA Raiders fans especially - having been to their games and been in the stands they were already basically a marauder group (with apologies to any actual Raiders fans on the board)

[James Langham]

Originally Posted by Olefin

"The gangs of LA are a just unbelievable.

Brighton River Reavers (They like motorboats)
Resida Banditos (There from Resida)
Seal Beach Girls (There suspicous of men)
Sunset Beach Boys (They like getting sun tans and surfing)
The Flying Circus (They screach in a secret language; a falsetto London Cockney accent)
The Hollywooders (They do everything with style)
The L.A. Raiders
The Masked Riders (They wear masks and are mysterious)
The Rad Rats (Their scavengers)"

I know - where are the obvious gangs - i.e. the Cripps and the Bloods, both of whom were very much in existence when the module was written? I do like the LA Raiders - if they are a gang of devoted LA Raiders fans especially - having been to their games and been in the stands they were already basically a marauder group (with apologies to any actual Raiders fans on the board)

It is possible that there was an attempt to avoid real gangs for the same reason that real people were avoided.

[Rainbow Six]

Originally Posted by James Langham

It is possible that there was an attempt to avoid real gangs for the same reason that real people were avoided.

I'm in the final stages of completing the marauder section of my Alternative SGUK and oddly enough have just changed the name of a group of football thugs from their real name to a fictional alternative as the more I thought about it the more it seemed like a better idea not to use the real name for several reasons (I must admit that one such reason was that I was concerned that using the real name might lead to people doing a google search for that name finding their way here, and they may not be the sort of people that we would want to attract).

So yeah, whilst I have been guilty of using real names myself, I think I can understand why it's not such a good idea.

[Olefin]

been thinking about doing that myself with the Lords Resistance Army and Joseph Kony both of whom are in my current Kenya sourcebook I am putting together as well as Mengistu and the ruler of Kenya in the 1995-2000 timeframe

I dont expect them to come looking for me (love to see what lawyer would represent Kony) but its probably for the best

[RN7]

Originally Posted by James Langham

It is possible that there was an attempt to avoid real gangs for the same reason that real people were avoided.

I don't think the Cripps and the Bloods would be reading T2K, in fact I doubt some of them could even read.

[James Langham]

Originally Posted by RN7

I don't think the Cripps and the Bloods would be reading T2K, in fact I doubt some of them could even read.

More importantly though, could their lawyers?

[Olefin]

who knows - showing them surviving a nuclear war and taking over more territory may even be taken by them as a compliment

[RN7]

Originally Posted by James Langham

More importantly though, could their lawyers?

Which type of Lawyer, copyright lawyers or homocide lawyers?

[TrailerParkJawa]

Originally Posted by Webstral

I suppose one could go a very different route than normal. Inside the Sixth US Army AO would be a number of players jockeying for control of what would be a local superpower once the recovery got underway. PCs might find themselves called upon to take sides or perform special missions. I'll have to think on this.

In some of my pondering I have the remnants of 6th Army moving to Camp Parks and abandoning SF. Camp Parks overlooks 580 which is a route to Sacramento. It's far enough south to be out of the way of the Benicia strikes too.

Most forces are loyal to milgov in theory but as time goes by there is a growing consensus it's time to stop listening to the fools in Colorado and just rebuild CA.

There are some thoughts of mounting a recon of long beach to see if any oil industry equipment can be recovered to help the refineries in Bakersfield.