T2K Cuisine - Food in the aftermath

[Mohoender]

Originally Posted by jester

I saw that a couple years ago. Interesting but it didn't really grab me. And everyone was just too weird. I think its on par with preformance art or Circ Du Oile or Circe De Sol or one of those similiar just to out there.

Although the irony was good, the butchers daughter liked the handyman and was also trying to save him.

I had not thought of it that way but I understand what you mean and that is quite true.

[pmulcahy11b]

Imagine -- a roach coach where they actually serve roaches...

[Targan]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

Imagine -- a roach coach where they actually serve roaches...

And when you call someone a "goat smoker" its because they really do smoke goats...

[Raellus]

Horses and dogs would go pretty fast, where food is really scarce. Rats too; Pigeons in urban areas.

In terms of more organized agriculture/animal husbandry, seems like goats would become popular again, being as they are relatively hardy and will eat just about anything.

And then, there's always Soilent Green...

[Littlearmies]

Funnily enough we have a veggie who works in our office and at our office party I asked if the reason she was a vegetarian was moral or because she didn't like eating cute furry animals or she just didn't like meat. She replied that she didn't think it was moral to kill something else just so she could eat. So I said if an animal just died of old age would she be okay with eating it then - she thought about and said she couldn't see why not.

So I bought her this for her birthday a couple of weeks ago:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Original-Roa.../dp/0898152003

It's actually pretty practical!

Malc

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by Littlearmies

Funnily enough we have a veggie who works in our office...She replied that she didn't think it was moral to kill something else just so she could eat.

Does she not know that plants are also alive?

[Mohoender]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

Does she not know that plants are also alive?

Yes but you can hardly imagine them screaming unless standing in a forest in a middle of a storm.

Nevertheless, people always have strange reaction concerning meat. I'm eating a lot of kangaroo lately and I will for some weeks. The village minimarket bought three types of meat (frozen) for christmas: Kangaroo, doe and ostrich. People have bought all the does and ostrichs but Kangaroos were left aside. Hopefully for him, I'll be a customer: it's very good.

From what I know, many Americans would avoid Rabbit (It's excellent). Reptiles are fairly good either and according to my cousin white worms are juicy.

Anyway the most funny thing is that many meat eater are showing disgust when you ask them to kill an animal. Visit an aquarium with my wife and you'll quickly understand that many of these wonderful fishes are only want be sushis. Visit a zoo or a farm with me and you quickly realize that these animals are no more than walking steaks. Well done, medium or rare??

[Targan]

Originally Posted by Littlearmies

Funnily enough we have a veggie who works in our office and at our office party I asked if the reason she was a vegetarian was moral or because she didn't like eating cute furry animals or she just didn't like meat. She replied that she didn't think it was moral to kill something else just so she could eat.

I'm tempted to say that is madness but that would be intolerant of me. Anyone who uses a mirror to take a look inside their mouth can clearly see that we humans are omnivores. Throwing millions of years of evolution out the window because you think fluffy critters are too cute to eat seems a little odd to me. However I can sort of see where someone is coming from if they decide not to eat meat because they wouldn't be prepared to kill, gut and skin an animal themseves. The meat I eat tends to be from types of animals I have killed and eaten in the past or would be prepared to hunt. I don't eat beef very often because I'm not too keen on the idea of killing, gutting and skinning a cow. That would be a really big job.

[pmulcahy11b]

I'm definitely not a vegetarian, but I'm not a hunter either. It's cowardice more than anything else -- I can't stand to look an animal in the eye (or even the ass) and shoot it, though I've done it in the past (along with some snaring and trapping) and could do it in the future. It's the duality of man; I love animals, yet I eat them too -- I just don't want to hunt them myself.

[Webstral]

Originally Posted by Targan

Anyone who uses a mirror to take a look inside their mouth can clearly see that we humans are omnivores.

It's true that we can eat meat. That doesn't mean we should--at least not the way Western nations have come to eat meat. Our digestive tracts have a great deal more in common with the digestive tracts of rabbits (sans the cecum) than with wolves or cats. We don't handle cholesterol very well. Diseases brought on by over-consumption of animal products are the leading causes of death in the US. We can eat meat, but we're optimized for vegetable consumption. For everyone who equates meat consumption with being at the top of the food chain and thence with self-esteem, remember that lions and wolves don't have opposable thumbs.

That much said, no one is going to give a damn about such long-term niceties like cholesterol build-up after the Thanksgiving Day Massacre.

Webstral

[General Pain]

Originally Posted by Littlearmies

Funnily enough we have a veggie who works in our office and at our office party I asked if the reason she was a vegetarian was moral or because she didn't like eating cute furry animals or she just didn't like meat. She replied that she didn't think it was moral to kill something else just so she could eat. So I said if an animal just died of old age would she be okay with eating it then - she thought about and said she couldn't see why not.

So I bought her this for her birthday a couple of weeks ago:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Original-Roa.../dp/0898152003

It's actually pretty practical!

Malc

priceless

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by Littlearmies

Funnily enough we have a veggie who works in our office and at our office party I asked if the reason she was a vegetarian was moral or because she didn't like eating cute furry animals or she just didn't like meat. She replied that she didn't think it was moral to kill something else just so she could eat. So I said if an animal just died of old age would she be okay with eating it then - she thought about and said she couldn't see why not.

Inform her that throughout our evolution, meat has been the main power behind the development of our big brains -- or would she prefer to still be an Australopithecus Robustus, hoping some other animal didn't eat her?

[Targan]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

Inform her that throughout our evolution, meat has been the main power behind the development of our big brains -- or would she prefer to still be an Australopithecus Robustus, hoping some other animal didn't eat her?

I understand your point completely Paul but Robustus wasn't one of our direct ancestors, it was one of the Hominid species that co-existed with our direct ancestor Homo Habilis. Well that seems to be the current scientific consensus anyway (when I was younger it was believed that Australopithecus Africanus and Robustus co-existed). It is fairly certain that we and Robustus both descended from the more gracile lines of Australopithecus but our line didn't have the big sagittal crests that Robustus and Australopithecus Boisei had (needed to attach those big herbivore jaw muscles to the top of the skull).

I agree with you on the brain development point. Even though Robustus probably had a very basic level of tool use they almost certainly never developed the use of fire or spoken language before they died out leaving no descendants.

[Rupert Willies]

Originally Posted by Raellus

And then, there's always Soilent Green...

Yes, as long as there are people, there will always be Soylent Green. Tastes like chicken!

[Legbreaker]

I heard it's more like pork....

[Targan]

Originally Posted by Legbreaker

I heard it's more like pork....

That's what the Maoris say.