So What Teams are Needed for the Project?

[ArmySGT.]

Originally Posted by robj3

ArmySGT wrote:


Sorry.
That's a crappy explanation in our timeline, and not much better in the TM1-1 one.
As previously noted - as soon as the U.S. ICBMs lifted off, the early warning satellites would have detected them.

We know from the Petrov incident that individual missile launches could be detected, let alone the large fraction of the 1,000 available ICBMs that would have been part of the U.S. first strike.

The General Secretary, Defense Minister and chief of the General Staff were required to have access to launch codes 24/7, like the U.S. President's 'football'.


Which would have been activated shortly after the SLBMs landed if we're trying to minimise possible Soviet response time i.e. U.S. first strike was with SLBMs.

Mikeo80 wrote:


It wouldn't have in our world. The other side had launch on warning capability.

The TM1-1 alt-history is very different - the Soviets got bio-ICBM warheads to operational status - but their early warning capability matured quickly in the 1970s and early 1980s. I just can't see it being radically different from what actually got deployed.

The two superpowers attained effective parity of strategic nuclear forces in the 1980s.

Prior to this the U.S. had the larger and far more advanced force.

Either side could produce a global catastrophe in their own right.


Rob

Well, remembering news articles of Boris Yeltsin being returned to the Russian official residence in Washington D.C black out drunk wearing only his underwear.... I find it not surprising.

Then a great number of them can be out of the Moscow Military District in their little (laughs) Dachas.

Lastly the Soviet Machine after Stalin was not about personal initiative. So everybody could well have been waiting for someone else.

The launches are a complete surprise to the American Officers in the Silos too and the Submarines too. There is no great crisis or political showdown. There no grand diplomatic displays.

http://www.historyorb.com/date/1989/november/18

It is a Saturday, most everyone is a home and Americans are planning their upcoming Thanksgiving feast.

Private E-1 Snuffy isn't bragging on the phone to all his friends and relatives that Armageddon starts Saturday.

The NSA and CIA parking lots are empty.

There is nothing to indicate anything to anyone that 18 November 1989 is the day the world dies.

[mikeo80]

If I may, let us go back to the team issue. I know I contributed to the "wandering afield" as it were.

Here is a team that might be considered. Several NEST Teams would be very usefull, especially if something the Soviets sent our way did NOT go boom. I refer, of course to Operation Lucifer.

IF TMP works the way it was supposed to, it stands to reason there would be at least a few warheads, both USSR and USA that did not go BOOM. Having someone with the skill, nerve and GREAT BIG BRASS ONES to neutralize a nuke.

My $0.02

Mike

[ArmySGT.]

Nuclear Biological Chemical specialist Team

Intended with the original five year plan to search for and map out nuclear strikes and fallout patterns.

To sample persistent chemical agents to classify by type, map areas contaminated, and assist decontamination efforts.

Sample viral pathogens and bacterial infection from victims or animal vectors such as mosquitoes, fleas, or rats to classify by type and aid medical teams in searching for an antigen.

Vehicle either a M93 FOX or a V-150 TOW vehicle refitted internally as a NBC recon vehicle.

With trailer mounter fusion powered hot water pressure washer for vehicles and shower apparatus for decontaminating people or livestock.

[ArmySGT.]

Field Kitchen....... There should have been plans for hundreds of hungry refugees. Dehydrated food is better than no food but, the simplest and most affordable preparation is fresh.

Truck or trailer mounted, fusion powered baking ovens that can produce phenomenal numbers of baked bread.

A milling operation that can process grains into flour.

A plastic recycling plant on a trailer that can turn any plastics into disposable flatware, plates, cups, and storage bags, also makes sand bags if necessary.

A trailer mounted glass recycling plant fusion plant that when fed broken glass or silicate material extrudes glass in sheets suitable for average homes, and businesses, or to manufacture green houses.

A trailer mounted gasket and seal fabrication plant. A system using 3D printing, injection modeling, laser cutting, and rapid prototyping methodology. This system can produce select gaskets or seals for any auto, truck, tractor, construction equipment, small engine, or aircraft stored in the memory of the onboard computer control. Also functions as a large fusion plant to power electrical tools, and to run an onboard compressor for air tools. The operator can request a single item, all for a particular subsystem (such as a motor) or complete which will provide all the necessary gaskets and rings to completely overhaul everything on one vehicle.

[ArmySGT.]

Also reconaissance teams...... Why not Teams that launch UAVs, tethered aerostats, and drifting balloons?

These can scout large areas in a general way, lift doppler radar for weather warning and forecasting, and sampling of upper atmosphere for NBC contaminants.

Bridge layer? Some bridges are bound to be damaged or destroyed yet that river crossing vital to commerce. Alternatively, some areas would be predicted to be so contaminated another crossing would need to be built or significantly upgraded.

Crematorium on a trailer. Fusion powered. For the rapid disposal of the dead killed by biowar agents that is not frightfully psychologically damaging for the surviving family members.

Trailer mounted postal sorting station. The U.S. Postal service will be vital in reconstruction periods in bringing families back into contact. This sorts thousands of letters an hour, bagging them for transportation to regional hubs. Onboard paper mill recycles any paper into sheet paper and envelopes of various sizes.

[ArmySGT.]

Satcom, Secure Comms, ReTrans, and Radio Direction Finding.

Teams in a Modified V-150 APC with Trailer mounted Generator / Satcom dish. These teams would as part of a combined group aid the combined group leader (CGL) in C2, support the CGL in contact with and reporting to regional bases and Prime Base. These teams as part of a retransmission network would keep multiple combined groups networked. Radio direction finding (RDF) equipment aboard with large antennas and more sophisticated signal processors give this team an edge in locating Project personnel distress signals, locating civil distress calls (SOS), tracking U.S. Gov operations, and locating hostile forces C2 nodes of operation. Their secondary role would be in aid to civil radio stations, repairing the equipment and infrastructure, as well as training technicians. AM/FM civil band radio will be important in the reconstruction effort.

[ArmySGT.]

Air Defense.

Light. Teams with an FAV or XR-311 (I prefer Humvees M998 for this) The FAV doesn't have a ring mount, it has a roof rack instead. Lights are MANPADS (Man Portable Air Defense Systems.) They will be using FIM-92A Stinger missiles in the portable shoulder fired configuration to protect Morrow assets and refugees.

Medium, Teams with the V-150 PIVAD. This is the M163 Product Improved Vulcan Air Defence mounted on a V-150 chassis. This team will also employ MANPADS to extend their range and add flexibility.

Heavy. MIM-72 / M48 Chaparral Forward Area Air-Defense System [FAADS]. A system considered short range by the US military, this system provides a heavier hitting missile for engagement of threats to Morrow assets and protected refugees.

These systems coupled with LSDIS and Sentinel Radar teams provide coordinated coverage.

http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/doco...d/chapter5.htm