Nuke calculator - new one

[Targan]

Originally Posted by raketenjagdpanzer

I'm almost certain that in canon Twilight:2000 there were hits close enough to Lima to render it a moot point.

I was only half right

*SPOILERS*

Per the mini-module Lima Incident (Challenge Magazine issue 56, pages 6-9):

(Page 8, middle column) "Lima was half destroyed by the blast that hit just to the southwest of the city. With most of the city in rubble and much of it uninhabitable due to radiation, the scavengers and thieves operate out of the northeast corner of the city, where the tank plant is located."

The module is all about a CivGov SOG unit being sent on a secret mission to secure the tank plant following intelligence suggesting there are 30 intact M1 Abrams MBTs sitting parked there.

[stg58fal]

kato, the refinery in Lima is IN Lima, not Beaverdam.

I don't know how to get the pics that others have posted to show, but I plugged the address for the tank plant and the refinery into Google maps, and it says they're 1.5 miles (2.4 kilometers) away from each other.

In case anyone wants to see the pic, or post it here:

General Dynamics Joint Systems Manufacturing Center: 1155 Buckeye Rd, Lima OH

Husky Lima Refinery: 1150 S Metcalf Street, Lima, OH

And at .8 of a mile from the tank plant, we have:

Ineos USA (chemical plant) and Arcadian Ohio LP: 1900 Fort Amanda Rd

[kato13]

Originally Posted by stg58fal

kato, the refinery in Lima is IN Lima, not Beaverdam.

Yeah I see what happened. The coordinates that I got back when I did a search for Lima, Ohio (via Google's geocoder) sent me to Lima street in Beaverdam for some reason.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=40.83...01929&t=m&z=16

I'll make the adjustment. However I agree that the Challenge article seemed to mistake northeast and southwest so I'm not sure if I should move the strike location.

[stg58fal]

Originally Posted by kato13

Yeah I see what happened. The coordinates that I got back when I did a search for Lima, Ohio (via Google's geocoder) sent me to Lima street in Beaverdam for some reason.

At least it didn't send you to Lima Ave. in Findlay.

I sometimes wonder if the same people named the streets in EVERY city in NW Ohio. Seems like every town that had more than two stoplights had a Street, Road, Avenue, or Boulevard named Wayne, Columbus, Franklin, Lima, Findlay, Detroit, or Marion. Findlay Road in Lima, Lima Avenue in Findlay.....ghack! Even better were county roads...the same road might be County Road 12, Township Road 18, and Marion-Gallion Road.

Do our Aussie and Euro friends have nightmarish road names/systems?

[WallShadow]

Originally Posted by stg58fal

At least it didn't send you to Lima Ave. in Findlay.

I sometimes wonder if the same people named the streets in EVERY city in NW Ohio. Seems like every town that had more than two stoplights had a Street, Road, Avenue, or Boulevard named Wayne, Columbus, Franklin, Lima, Findlay, Detroit, or Marion. Findlay Road in Lima, Lima Avenue in Findlay.....ghack! Even better were county roads...the same road might be County Road 12, Township Road 18, and Marion-Gallion Road.

Do our Aussie and Euro friends have nightmarish road names/systems?

Still having nightmares driving in the US:
Since western Ohio, southern Michigan were settled about the same time (turn of the 19th century, right?) they were influenced by the current popular terms and names--Rev War generals who influenced the region (Wayne), war heroes (Marion), great statesmen (Franklin), directional roads (Detroit, the-way-to)--not just roads but towns, townships, and counties, too.
Have you tried navigating in the great state of Delaware? They don't seem to use the same logic in displaying route signs and junction indicators. Luckily, it's a small state and if you get lost, you don't have to travel far from the other end to where you should have been going.

[stg58fal]

Originally Posted by WallShadow

Have you tried navigating in the great state of Delaware? ... Luckily, it's a small state and if you get lost, you don't have to travel far from the other end to where you should have been going.

I got a chuckle from the Delaware comment.

[stg58fal]

Originally Posted by Targan

"Lima was half destroyed by the blast that hit just to the southwest of the city. With most of the city in rubble and much of it uninhabitable due to radiation, the scavengers and thieves operate out of the northeast corner of the city, where the tank plant is located."

Maybe northeast in the alternate T2K universe, because IRL it's slightly west of south. Seeing the south end of Lima nuked wouldn't be much of a loss; it would probably INCREASE property values....