Gulf/Caribbean Naval Activity?

[Olefin]

heck didnt even think of stuff like the various criminal organizations in Colombia, Venezuela, US, etc.. doing something like deciding that it would be really great, with no organized law enforcement left to stop them and the various militaries in the area in chaos, to take over an island nation and make it their own private preserve

i.e. I dont see your typical Caribbean police force having the firepower to turn away Pablo Escobar or the Mafia when they show up with their private armies armed with Uzi's and other assorted guns to take over and run the place for themselves

[kalos72]

Updates thoughts here...

If the Mexican Navy was going to try and support the 4th Army drive into Texas, how would they do that?

I am thinking some sort of Naval Infantry assault since there were like 30 battalions of amphibious infantry.

I see 2-3 warships, DD and 2 patrol boats maybe and 2 LST's as the size of the task force.

Thoughts?

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by kalos72

Updates thoughts here...

If the Mexican Navy was going to try and support the 4th Army drive into Texas, how would they do that?

I am thinking some sort of Naval Infantry assault since there were like 30 battalions of amphibious infantry.

I see 2-3 warships, DD and 2 patrol boats maybe and 2 LST's as the size of the task force.

Thoughts?

My thought is that I really need to do a Mexican character generation since its important to one module. Are those amphibious units Naval Infantry (Infantry trained to assault from landing craft and boats), or they Marines (an elite organization in most countries that have them).

[WallShadow]

Originally Posted by Olefin

heck didnt even think of stuff like the various criminal organizations in Colombia, Venezuela, US, etc.. doing something like deciding that it would be really great, with no organized law enforcement left to stop them and the various militaries in the area in chaos, to take over an island nation and make it their own private preserve

i.e. I dont see your typical Caribbean police force having the firepower to turn away Pablo Escobar or the Mafia when they show up with their private armies armed with Uzi's and other assorted guns to take over and run the place for themselves

The drug cartels may have lots of guns, but what happens when the market for their prime product drops into the cellar? What would they turn to to maintain their strength and their hold on the people under their sway? Here's an ironic switch--the chemists switch over to manufacturing pharmaceuticals. Heroin, morphine, and cocaine, of course, but what would they need to start production runs of aspirin, acetaminophen, sulfa, and other badly-needed and highly-prized and highly-priced medical drugs?

[Olefin]

And those needed drugs would probably bring them more money than ever before. After all if you can make heroin you can make morphine which has a medical use.

Could see them by 2012-2014, as the world recovers, now having transformed into the world's biggest pharmaceutical companies, rivaled only companies in France, still heavily armed because of how rough the world would still be, with things like cocaine being a "special order" only product as their facilities would be devoted to medical drug production almost entirely.

[Targan]

Originally Posted by Olefin

And those needed drugs would probably bring them more money than ever before. After all if you can make heroin you can make morphine which has a medical use.

Could see them by 2012-2014, as the world recovers, now having transformed into the world's biggest pharmaceutical companies, rivaled only companies in France, still heavily armed because of how rough the world would still be, with things like cocaine being a "special order" only product as their facilities would be devoted to medical drug production almost entirely.

Cocaine is very useful medicinally, as a potent local anesthetic.

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by Targan

Cocaine is very useful medicinally, as a potent local anesthetic.

Heroin was also first meant to be a local anesthetic, and was later regularly prescribed for general pain and even depression.

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by Olefin

And those needed drugs would probably bring them more money than ever before. After all if you can make heroin you can make morphine which has a medical use.

Morphine is halfway to heroin, or as the movie The Deep put it, "halfway to hell."

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by WallShadow

The drug cartels may have lots of guns, but what happens when the market for their prime product drops into the cellar? What would they turn to to maintain their strength and their hold on the people under their sway? Here's an ironic switch--the chemists switch over to manufacturing pharmaceuticals. Heroin, morphine, and cocaine, of course, but what would they need to start production runs of aspirin, acetaminophen, sulfa, and other badly-needed and highly-prized and highly-priced medical drugs?

I know aspirin is easy to make if you have a supply of willow trees (and even chewing the willow bark has a pain-relieving effect -- the Cro-Magnons even used that remedy). Don't know about the rest.