Subways

[WallShadow]

Originally Posted by StainlessSteelCynic

I was well aware of LA's massive storm water drains and runoffs, they've featured in many, many movies but I didn't know about any subway systems.

LA's storm drains? Think of the potential for rumors! D'ya think they'd find any giant mutated ants down there?

[mikeo80]

I know that Philadelphia has a subway system. IIRC, basically a north/south run on Broad Street and an east/west line on Market Street. Again, IIRC, Market Street line is both underground and above ground.

http://subway.umka.org/map-philadelphia.html

I do not remember any mention of flooding on the North/South line. I used to use it to get to Temple University. While I went to Temple, the subways were a relatively safe and effective way to travel. The two years I went to Temple, I never had any problems.

With T2k both V1 and V2.2, Philly gets nuked pretty hard because of massive oil refineries in South Philly. I could see maybe the north end of the subway down to say City Hall MIGHT still exist....Could be a lead in for scavenging the Temple Library as an example of a scenario..

My $0.02

Mike

[stormlion1]

The Philadelphia Tunnels won't flood, there a good distance from the Delaware River but the Schuylkill is another story up by 30th Street Station where the tunnels and the River are only a few thousand feet from each other. Course there both above ground but let the river overflow its banks and they will begin to flood quick.
Also don't forget that there is one or two abandoned Stops in the Philly Subway System, one quite large and connecting old Steam Passages throughout some leading quite a distance from Central Philly. I used to ride a bike through them. Tight but doable and completely hidden from most Philadelphians and leading into the sub basements of a lot of older buildings or just dead ending where new construction has obliterated those passage. Don't recommend going down there, easy to get lost and the Bums are scrappers about there territory!

http://hiddencityphila.org/2013/01/t...n-underground/

[StainlessSteelCynic]

Originally Posted by WallShadow

LA's storm drains? Think of the potential for rumors! D'ya think they'd find any giant mutated ants down there?

Funny you should say that...
I have a varied collection of interests including underground & urban exploration and although I also enjoy many of the 1950s-60s "atomic horror" movies, I specifically wanted to see "Them!" because part of the movie takes place in those LA storm drains.

[.45cultist]

During my 1st ed. T2K, I'd look at men's adventure fiction for ideas, one about NYC stated there were 6900 miles of tunnels, subway and various utilities added together. But a subway tunnel in various stages of flooding and with brigands and critters would be a good spot for a forgotten CD stockpiles. Dungeon 21! This site has all the gear needed for a salvage job.

[kalos72]

Link please?

[.45cultist]

It was a dead tree series that inspired the 1990's militia movements, hence my interest for the game. Classic b rate stuff, but the tunnel part was real, "6900 miles, most big enough for a man to move through." They found a group of disfigured cannibals lived there..... I believe it may have been the "Ashes" series. The feds started showing displeasure at the author's influence and he started taking it personal. Be warned the series is rambling and disjointed. Also classic pulp weapons handling and effects.

[kalos72]

Not sure I follow...is it a book series named Dungeon 21?

[Cdnwolf]

I grab inspiration from Metro 2033...

[.45cultist]

Originally Posted by kalos72

Not sure I follow...is it a book series named Dungeon 21?

No, that was my reference to finding the extensive Civil Defense caches dismantled in the Clinton era, these had WWII small arms so particular attention was paid to destruction. The book series was the Ashes series, "Out of the Ashes was the first. Again these are shlock, not alternate history. But inspiration comes from the most surprising things at times.