Dust off your books, Russia's going full-USSR rewind.

[stormlion1]

The troops were seeing have every insignia removed from those uniforms and even have there faces covered in most pics I've seen. Makes them look like mooks from a video game. I'm guessing this is to keep people guessing who they are or what units there from so as far as anyone can tell there Russian Specops or Naval Infantry or even troops pulled from boot camp.
Interesting thing is reports of four Russian Warships demanding two Ukrainian Warships stand down and be boarded. There keeping them bottled up in harbor.

[Trooper]

Originally Posted by stormlion1

I'm guessing this is to keep people guessing who they are or what units there from so as far as anyone can tell there Russian Specops or Naval Infantry or even troops pulled from boot camp.

Russian VDV?

Crimea Invaded By High Readiness Forces Of The Russian Federation
Teksti: Arto Pulkki | Kuvat: Getty Images / EPA / Landov

According to Suomen Sotilas (Soldier of Finland) magazine's expert, the Crimean invasion was carried out by high readiness forces of the Russian Federation. The Russian media reported that the forces displaying no national or other insignia were pro-Russian volunteer militias defending Crimean autonomy.

During last weekend Western media was speculating to whom the troops actually belong.

Suomen Sotilas magazine's Arto Pulkki analyzed pictures taken from the so called volunteer militias.


Unknown soldiers - upper picture.

- New EMR camouflage combat uniforms used only by Russian Federation forces

- New 6sh112 tactical vest used only by Russian Federation forces

- New 6B27 composite helmet used only by Russian Federation forces

- New 7,62 mm PKP machine guns used only by Russian Federation forces

- Russian 5,45 mm AK74M assault rifles


As a conclusion it is evident that the troops in question are high readiness troops of the Russian Federation.

Unknonw soldiers - lower picture.

- 6B26 composite helmets used only by airborne troops of the Russian Federation

- Russian 5,45 mm AK74M assault rifles

Soldier on the left:

- New EMR-camouflage combat uniform used only by Russian Federation forces

- 6SH92-5 tactical vest used only by airborne troops of the Russian Federation

Soldier on the right:

- Russian special forces and mountain troops Gorka-3 combat uniform used only by Russian Federation forces

- Russian special forces Smersh AK/VOG tactical vest used only by Russian Federation forces

With a 99 % probability we argue that these troops are the 45th Guards Separate Reconnaissance Regiment of VDV (Russian: 45-й гвардейский отдельный разведывательный ордена Александра Невского полк ВДВ), Kubinka, Moscow.

http://www.suomensotilas.fi/en/artik...ian-federation

[Panther Al]

For what its worth, we already are technically (The US that is) required by treaty to send in troops in support of the Ukraine.

Back when the old USSR broke up, they wound up with a lot of Nukes: In exchange for giving them up, we, along with 6 others - including Russia - agreed that should *anybodies* armed forces move in, the countries that signed on would come in and put a stop to it with all the force required.

[kalos72]

But we wont...

[kato13]

Originally Posted by Panther Al

For what its worth, we already are technically (The US that is) required by treaty to send in troops in support of the Ukraine.

Back when the old USSR broke up, they wound up with a lot of Nukes: In exchange for giving them up, we, along with 6 others - including Russia - agreed that should *anybodies* armed forces move in, the countries that signed on would come in and put a stop to it with all the force required.

It was never submitted to nor ratified by the Senate so it is NOT a treaty the US is bound by. I was really surprised by that fact.

[stormlion1]

If there is a treaty to aid the Ukraine isn't the other signers required to send aid? Sure the US may not have ratified it, but did the other signers? Because if they did sign and they don't send troops. Its just a piece of worthless paper.

[RN7]

Originally Posted by stormlion1

If there is a treaty to aid the Ukraine isn't the other signers required to send aid? Sure the US may not have ratified it, but did the other signers? Because if they did sign and they don't send troops. Its just a piece of worthless paper.

Treaty or not no country in its right mind is going to send military forces into the middle of the Ukraine and confront the Russians.

[kalos72]

As we tend to do...we promised something and dont follow through. And we wonder why the world is slowly turning against us.

Why make promises you KNOW you wont keep...

[Nowhere Man 1966]

Originally Posted by Panther Al

For what its worth, we already are technically (The US that is) required by treaty to send in troops in support of the Ukraine.

Back when the old USSR broke up, they wound up with a lot of Nukes: In exchange for giving them up, we, along with 6 others - including Russia - agreed that should *anybodies* armed forces move in, the countries that signed on would come in and put a stop to it with all the force required.

Good point, but I doubt we, or anyone will. Chuck's #2 Law: Treaties are made to be broken. Hate to be cynical but they don't work or otherwise thing change to where they are useless. I think it was a mistake for the Ukraine to give up their nukes.

Chuck

[StainlessSteelCynic]

On a perhaps related note, a Russian "numbers" radio station had a change in its broadcasts at the end of February.
It's not particularly interesting to hear but as one of the comments on YouTube states, "The timing of this is unsettling".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyJsG3v6mks#t=12

More info on the station concerned, UVB-76
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UVB-76