Abandon tunnels

[.45cultist]

Originally Posted by stormlion1

I always thought converting a old tunnel into some sort of shelter would be a good idea, but then there is the issue of air circulation if you shut one end down and bury it. Especially if power is an issue. Might be a good way to store equipment though, pull it in and blow both ends. When you need it down the road dig it out.

Another option would be to use them as FEMA or SEMA processing centers or gear staging areas. Less fencing and barriers needed, easy to funnel refugees and supply trucks though.

[stormlion1]

If it has the word FEMA, Processing, or SEMA I'm not heading for the line but away from it. Especially if its through a tunnel I can't get out of.

[Schone23666]

I'm not sure if there was another thread on this somewhere, but there are miles and f**king miles of old underground tunnel networks and bomb shelters throughout Germany, a lot of it under the cities around the Ruhr area and such.

When I attended University of Maryland overseas in Germany (they had an overseas program for dependents graduating from high school over there, back then) they had just moved the campus from Augsburg to Mannheim. The barracks the campus shared with a U.S. Army transportation/logistics outfit used to be an Imperial German army barracks around the turn of the century, later got converted into a barracks and depot for a Panzer unit during WWII and also was used as one of several AA observation posts. An old concrete MG nest/AA flak tower and several observation posts disguised as bell towers could still be seen studding the roofs of the barracks buildings.

Anyway, there was a permanently fenced off entrance off in a grassy corner by itself, no adjoining buildings or anything, and I was told that was one entrance that led to a massive series of tunnels and shelters beneath Mannheim. A few old timers told us that before they'd closed it off, when the waters had receded (the tunnels were now flooded) they'd gone down below to look around and found old rotting bunk rooms, radio rooms, etc. and even found underground garages with a few old rusted, parked Panzer tanks still in them.

Look around enough and I think you'll find plenty of stories of lost underground shelters/tunnels and weapons caches they were still turning up in Germany decades after the war.

[.45cultist]

Originally Posted by Schone23666

I'm not sure if there was another thread on this somewhere, but there are miles and f**king miles of old underground tunnel networks and bomb shelters throughout Germany, a lot of it under the cities around the Ruhr area and such.

When I attended University of Maryland overseas in Germany (they had an overseas program for dependents graduating from high school over there, back then) they had just moved the campus from Augsburg to Mannheim. The barracks the campus shared with a U.S. Army transportation/logistics outfit used to be an Imperial German army barracks around the turn of the century, later got converted into a barracks and depot for a Panzer unit during WWII and also was used as one of several AA observation posts. An old concrete MG nest/AA flak tower and several observation posts disguised as bell towers could still be seen studding the roofs of the barracks buildings.

Anyway, there was a permanently fenced off entrance off in a grassy corner by itself, no adjoining buildings or anything, and I was told that was one entrance that led to a massive series of tunnels and shelters beneath Mannheim. A few old timers told us that before they'd closed it off, when the waters had receded (the tunnels were now flooded) they'd gone down below to look around and found old rotting bunk rooms, radio rooms, etc. and even found underground garages with a few old rusted, parked Panzer tanks still in them.

Look around enough and I think you'll find plenty of stories of lost underground shelters/tunnels and weapons caches they were still turning up in Germany decades after the war.

University of Maryland is at Yokota AB also, People have found railroad cars of military weapons, ammo that sit forgotten on spurs for decades in the U.S.

[Schone23666]

Originally Posted by .45cultist

University of Maryland is at Yokota AB also, People have found railroad cars of military weapons, ammo that sit forgotten on spurs for decades in the U.S.

That was originally constructed by the Imperial Japanese Army as Tama Airfield, correct? Wouldn't surprise me if they had been still finding old tunnels and caches around there too. They did build some tunnel and bunker networks around parts of the islands and stockpiled with whatever ammo and weapons that were left in anticipation of Operations Olympic and Coronet.

I guess it'd be a little like poking around the old tunnels and caves on Saipan like this guy does, plus watching out for unexploded ordnance and such:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkV..._6za6Mv02OYxtg

[.45cultist]

It had three B17's that were pieced together for study. Huge roaches come out of the man hole lids, reminded me of "Damnation Alley", when Paul Winfield's character was eaten.

[Sanjuro]

When I was a student (Reagan was still POTUS..) I went exploring some of the abandoned railway tunnels on the west side of Glasgow. For those familiar, we started under a restaurant on Great Western Road, near Gartnavel Hospital, tracked North nearly a mile, then emerged near Maryhill. Then we entered another tunnel tracking Southeast, passing through the long-disused Botanic Gardens station and emerged in an old cutting beside Kelvinbridge (across the river from the entrance to the Underground station).
I believe most, if not all of the entrances we used have been closed off now, but there is still a fenced-off area in the Botanic Gardens where the ventilator shafts above the station are.

[.45cultist]

Originally Posted by stormlion1

If it has the word FEMA, Processing, or SEMA I'm not heading for the line but away from it. Especially if its through a tunnel I can't get out of.

I know but story wise it could complicate bug outs, become a brigand fortress, or for a zombie pandemic-the buffet. Before anyone thinks we're too harsh, FEMA has never worked as planned since it's inception under Carter.